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[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

So any future zero-days discovered will now sell on the dark web, you did this to yourself, Apple.

[–] 50MYT@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago

A "no touch" iOS exploit goes for 7 figs if proven and sold to a group looking.

[–] lakemalcom@sh.itjust.works 30 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Seems like a much more lucrative idea to sell it to the highest bidder then

It always was.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

People defend apple wwayyyy too much. They're worse than Google, which is saying something. Google doesn't pretend that your data security is their only concern and then barely do things differently to actually protect you

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, they just hoover it up, use all of your data to train ai, and shut down services they bought that you enjoy so that you can have room on your device for their 18th chat application. Definitely better... Or some nuclear grade whataboutism and we can just admit they both suck in different ways. I know the bed fellow I'd pick, and it ain't the G man that's been burning my ass with product shutdowns, forced ads, and data vacuuming for the past 25 years.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Everyone bitches about shutting things down but I can't remember ever caring about one of those products and I suspect I'm far from alone because why would they shut down a popular product?

I pick Google one thousand times over. Wish I could avoid them but if my other viable choice are liars whose entire business model is preventing user choice and lying about caring about my privacy while proving otherwise, they can suck my ass.

You whine about ads but you choose a platform that forces you to use their one piece of absolute shit web browser that cannot be definition block any ads unless apple says you can. Like every fucking thing else on the phone, by default you can't do it until they deem it worthy of being allowed.

Because I use a Google phone, I almost never see an ad. The choice I have right now is barely different from 10 years ago but iOS has taken many years to get maybe 60% of the freedoms I've had the entire fucking time.

You can probably tell I'm pretty sick of people explaining away their garbage business model which I despise.

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That's a fucking wild opinion considering some of the high profile shit they've shuttered. Maybe you're just unfamiliar and unempathetic though. So here's a list https://killedbygoogle.com/

Beyond that, all I have to say is that you have fun shutting off your brain and go enjoy being the product because your statement is so fucking blind to reality you're defending a company who literally has lost repeated lawsuits for monopolistic practices because they "don't prevent user choice" and "care about your privacy". Neither of which are remotely fucking true, and you can prove it empirically.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I couldn't possibly disagree with this trainwreck of an opinion more. Apple users are the ones actively turning off their brains as perfectly evidenced here. Google turned off your RSS reader is the best comeback you got.

Apple has been attacked legally for their flagrant anti competitive practices repeatedly, to the point the EU has threatened to ban them from a fucking continent. Google being shitty can never excuse an iota of Apple's anti consumer and anti user behavior. Fuck apple. Could never ever say it enough.

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't use rss, if you're curious of the actual product they killed that I enjoyed asshole it was Google Play Music, for which ytm is not a viable replacement. That's also another core misunderstanding you have here that I'm defending apple because your rotted fucking mind is so bent on white knighting for your fan boy company that you can't see I'm of the opinion they both fucking suck, just in different ways. As for that empirical evidence here's a list of some:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-prevails-landmark-antitrust-case-against-google

https://www.justice.gov/atr/case/us-and-plaintiff-states-v-google-llc

https://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_STATEMENT-18-4584_en.htm

https://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-19-1770_en.htm

https://apnews.com/article/ceba472d6882c413967f512f2dc56067

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2011/03/ftc-charges-deceptive-privacy-practices-googles-rollout-its-buzz-social-network

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/france-imposes-fines-facebook-ireland-google-2022-01-06/

https://www.doj.state.or.us/media-home/news-media-releases/largest-ag-consumer-privacy-settlement-in-u-s-history/

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/mar/08/google-street-view-settlement-wifi

So, fuck you and your shit ass fanboying. The most annoying part of it is that you're hating on others for the same shit your favorite special little boy "doesn't do". It's as insane as it is inept.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I admitted Google sucks too so this moronic fucking claim that I'm "white knighting" for them leads me to stop reading and throw you a big ol 🖕

Bit ironic because you're 100% simping for apple like a sidepiece

I don't need to post evidence apple doesn't care about you. These comments are on a post that proves it and you'll likely see articles about them losing another lawsuit every week or two that also prove. I know I've seen many of them already.

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Keep coping that I'm defending apple instead of correcting your incorrect bullshit assumptions. 10/10 great job. Daddy Google has your back. Don't be evil kiddo.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

PS pretty funny you curate a list that you keep handy to prove that Google is evil so you can prove it when absolutely no one denies that whatsoever. If I ever get bored enough I'll make a list like that for apple which would clearly include dozens of lawsuits and other articles exposing their anti consumer behavior.

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Very cute you think I keep a list on my bedside instead of being able to... Gasp.. Google search for fucking relevant information I know to exist? Wild.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm sure within 2 minutes you were able to find 10+ totally different articles relating to essentially any company that gets talked about. I must be a moron to not believe that's possible. I bow to you. I am now bested.

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Are you not familiar with Gemini? Shits a fucking click away bro.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I can read and so can anyone else who made it this far. Just like everyone else who uses the term "cope" it's just shorthand here for "I'm mad I'm wrong"

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It'd be pretty fucking wild for your to participate in an internet forum if you couldn't read, but thanks for clearing that up. Pointing out the obvious lends you so much credibility champ! Good job. You're gonna need to keep working on that "reading comprehension" bit though, because you're coping pretty fucking hard and you could at least understand what the world means. Might help you.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Let me spell it out for you, since those dumbed down UIs missing features and basic functionality have rotted your brain away: I meant that since I can read what you wrote, it's clear as day you care only for simping for apple.

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Well. You're fucking wrong. I don't know what to tell you about reality disagreeing with your dumb ass. I'm a ms certified sysadmin that runs linux clusters at home. I don't simp Apple for shit.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's been unpleasant, I'm out. Fuck Google. Fuck apple 100x harder. Not interested in you playing pretend.

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Get out. Enjoy the copeium. Go outside. Touch some fucking grass. You need to get closer to reality because apparently you can't fucking see it.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

All trite comments usually made by people who unirononically need the condescending advice

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

All the constant "I'm done" fakery bullshit for the lads that constantly want the last word. ;) Go get you some grass big guy.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Lol whatever you need to believe

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

👌 came back, didn't ya? Seems like my belief is getting some evidence.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Cause fck you that's why.

I'm explaining - their whole reputation as some steel monster doing things well is not due to some competencies or proper organization, it's due to it being illegal to show and check their failure.

In a proper (like 90s) environment their bugs would be known to every script kiddy out there, and everybody would discuss them and laugh at Apple. Various alternative solutions and modifications to their products would too be widely available.

They have correctly determined that appearance is more important for their power than actual security, - because customers don't form customer associations and other institutionalized ways of double-checking companies' bullshit, and without that even if you don't buy all that Apple says, you still take their discourse as given.

And maintaining their appearances is what law does, you'll get in jail for informing too many people of what they do.

But, as always, the actual criminals usually are informed.

It's the same with Google, MS and such.

In the computing world historically customer associations and such were not a thing (I mean, there existed such websites, but they were somewhat tied in feel and function to web directories and indie web news, so they mostly died out), and reputation in the wild was, because social media platforms were not a thing, and big media, while horizontal talk and gossip were.

Which is why making it illegal to spread factual information of their vulnerabilities and means to confirm it has effectively killed such feedback - reputation doesn't spread without confirmation.

So - customers unionize, because tech workers still think they're gonna be bosses in the new ancap world, and thus don't. I'm ancap since the time when that was more hated than neo-Nazis, and I've chosen that ideology consciously when I actually could think rationally about political and social ideologies, and they are not building anything of the kind.

For the post subject itself - they don't care if it ends up on the dark web. They don't lose anything significant.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago

Apple should be ashamed of this nonsense.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 14 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

To them [edit: Apple], Apple's customers' security is worth $1000 total.

Amazing :3

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 18 hours ago

It’s not ethical but if this is the case I would absolutely sell it to a bad actor. I know it’s terrible to do this but I also have bills to pay and apple is worth like 3 trillion dollars. Ridiculous

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Does one have to join some apple developers system and pay some annual developer's fee in order to get the 1000 bounty ?

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago

Generally no, but submitting a bug bounty is very much a nontrivial amount of work in documentation alone.