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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

almost as if zionism and israel do not represent all, or even most, Jews

[–] ThorrJo@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really hope skeptical Jews can gain greater control of the narrative, because imo right now what's visible on legacy media and corporate social media is very heavily biased to presenting only the far-right view as if Jewish people are a monolith who back it completely.

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In my area jewish people make up roughly a third of the pro-Palestine protesters. Jewish Voices for Peace is quite visible. This is significant given jewish people (interpreted broadly) make up maybe 3% of the local population.

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

TBH, I could see non-Israeli Jews getting worried that the longer the horror show continues in Gaza, the more likely it will be used to demonize them.

This isn't just a moral stand-- it's sensible self-preservation.

Personally, I hate that "support Israel" has been turned into "issue a blank cheque for genocide." Real "support" includes recognizing when a terrible mistake with long term consequences is happening and trying to pull them out of it. Cutting off arms to Israel is the nation-state version of taking your buddy's car keys at the pub so he can't drive drunk. They'll scream and curse your name, but they'll get home alive.

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 hours ago

I definitely agree that friends don’t let friends commit genocide

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 22 hours ago

reasons for Jews who are still connected to who theis people are to be against what's happening in the levant:

  1. it is obviously wrong
  2. we have as a group of people direct knowlege of how wrong it is
  3. our bodies are temples, meaning a few things. a) ever since the destruction of the second temple the necessity of a specific Jewish place for us to be safe has no longer made sense as we tried that and it didn't work b) we have been keeping our connection to who we are just fine without an israel so we should focus instead on community c) as severed as we've become from that space, we no longer are indigenous there and our skills as story tellers are better used not to maintain that space but instead to preserve the stories of other marginalized people d) if we think of our bodies as temples it creates a beautiful challenge for ourselves: we must provide the services of a temple where we are. we must feed the hungry, minister to the sick, listen to the weary, and protect the marginalized, just as we were once strangers in the spaces we once existed in, so too are others, and we know from our stories and history that what really helps a broken soul is some soup and some friendship
  4. we have kept the history of every attempted genocide against us and we have the knowledge that any and all genocides include a point where the targeted demographic is no longer obviously existing to whoever Pharaoh is this time but still it continues. in other words today it's the brown Muslim, tomorrow it's the Jew who isn't obviously non-Palestinian enough. the day after that it's the Jew who says "the killing can stop, we got everyone" and the day after that it's simply the Jews not at the core of power with no pretense that any of this was ever about safety or security. we should know better than anyone at this point that killing only begets more killing, and that genocide is a self fulfilling frenzy.