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[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 92 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Seth MacFarlane gets crap for his writing style, but I’m totally a sucker for it. I especially enjoy when he’s on screen. 1000 Ways to Die in the West and The Orville are amazing works from him that I thoroughly enjoy. I really wish he did more live action work.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

i like the Orville but 1000 ways to die is among the worst theatrical comedies of the past decade

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I felt like Orville succeeded despite him. I think he's okay but I’ve seen him play himself a thousand times before and idc anymore. If he's writing for it, it’s still good and I really think the rest of the cast is what kept me coming back. #teamgordon

[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

The Orville felt like he wanted to actually make a star trek the next generation clone, and Fox wanted the family guy in space. Because I feel like season 2 really got it. And then fox canned it.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 18 points 21 hours ago

i mean the show would literally not exist without him.

[–] tkohldesac@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Yeah… I’ve watched all of his stuff but his like… stammering to get a joke out that’s super characteristic of his is particularly grating now. Love everything he’s done but that particular quirk I could do without.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 134 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I love Trey and Matt but the feud is so enormously stupid.

Family guys stupid gags are dumb and lazy writing, but also quite often fucking hilarious. I'm a guy sitting on my couch watching adult cartoons, I'm not exploring the depth of good writing I'm covered in Dorito crumbs and looking for a good laugh.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 131 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm not even sure it's a real feud. It's two comedy shows making fun of each other. That's hardly a fight.

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

When they put a Starbucks across the street from a Dunkin Donuts, they both perform better

[–] Malfeasant@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

But the independent cafe is fucked...

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago

I hope they all get baked together and laugh at the flame wars.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago

That sounds more like a joke to me than them being serious. Like, I'm sure they do have those feelings at some level, but not enough to vent in an interview. But I'm pretty clueless with the behind the scenes of these shows, maybe that is all they think of Family Guy?

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Zink@programming.dev 8 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

We need the new version of this gif!

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

With his cousin the orange tumor?

I'm covered in Dorito crumbs and looking for a good laugh

Stealing this for my Tinder profile.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

90% of the stuff on South Park is also dumb and stupid. It's just they occasionally get a chance to make political commentary that their audience won't hate them for, so they go whole hog on it.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

If you have never been pissed about a episode of south park then you haven't watched it enough. They are pretty good about hitting everyone right in their bias.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

remember that episode that made fun of people for taking global warming too seriously? not a bad episode, but a bad message.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I've seen a lot of things they got wrong. Doesn't mean they don't get it right most of the time.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

well yea, i am not raging on southpark. just saying you watch it long enough and it will s find some way to offend anyone.

[–] Weirdfish@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

And they realised it and in later seasons came around.

Didn't lighten up on Gore any, but they did acknowledge man bear pig is real

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

well yea, i’m not totally knocking on southpark. but just that they will offend anyone at some point

[–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I was offended right from the start. That's just NOT how an anal probe is installed! And the satellite dish was the wrong size completely.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Sounds like one of the pitfalls of personal experience when watching fiction.

[–] KitKatKitCat@piefed.social 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Occasionally? I'd argue they've been making social and political commentary since the shows inception tbh.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes, they've been making commentary, but most of the time it's "Isn't this person dumb? What a dumb person. We should make fun of this dumb person." Occasionally it's people like Trump. Occasionally it's people like Al Gore, and then climate change becomes a joke for twenty years until they make a quiet retraction no one pays attention to. Or it's Paris Hilton or Ben Affleck and it's little more than petty celebrity gossip.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

Eh, they did do an episode taking on scientology. That takes guts, because those guys are litigious as fuck. I haven't seen any other show attempt to take them on and I imagine South Park's episode about them provided a lot of insight for people who didn't know just how bizarre their beliefs are.

On the other hand, you're not wrong about them straight-up calling some people "dumb." Their episode explaining Mormons literally sings, "Dumb, dumb, dumb" throughout the story. Yet even that episode was honest - Joseph Smith did claim to use a seerstone in his hat to read off golden plates. (Apparently there was a treasure-hunting fad going on at the time, where people used "seerstones" to try to find hidden things. Joseph Smith already had experience with that, and he scryed for treasure the same way he "read" the golden plates - by putting the stones in his hat and attempting to see through them.) They were also right about Lucy Harris and how Joseph Smith reacted to her. Athough Matt and Trey inserted their opinions through a voiceover song, they told a pretty accurate, educational story.

They do occasionally miss the target terribly (those earlier global warming denials frickin' hurt), but they mock a lot of celebrities for more than being "a dumb person." Kanye's mocked for his massive ego. Bono's mocked because the creators think he's a hypocrite. George Lucas and Steven Spielburg were portrayed raping a storm trooper, as a clear metaphor for how Matt and Trey thought they were violating and destroying their own work.

I don't agree with some of their accessments and choices, but they do tend to attack a lot of other characteristics than just "dumbness."

[–] cdf12345@lemmy.zip 2 points 17 hours ago

I think you’re missing the forest for the trees, pal.

[–] jbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Is it worth checking out the South Park episodes?

They had some really funny episodes in the 2000s. Don't think I've seen anything more recent except for one or two episodes.

Outside of that, a lot of their political commentary felt like word salad from regressive provincial Americans.

[–] melisdrawing@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I would recommend them unless you are likely to be offended by your beliefs being ridiculed. South Park really loves to make fun of EVERYONE for whom have a good enough premise. Some people really don't have beliefs strong enough for scrutiny and get upset. If you can laugh at yourself in general, you will probably enjoy Southpark.

[–] jbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 minutes ago

I've watched South Park before, mostly stuff from the 90s and 2000s. Some episodes are really funny and well made. It's rare that I remember an episode name for series, but "Scott Tenorman Must Die" is an all time classic.

I eventually tuned out (other than occasional episodes) and as it got a bit samey and IMO they always had a lot of filler/badly made episodes (even in the 90s/2000s). Trying too hard to be edgy.

I was just curious about their most recent output. I am going to check it out. Another user mentioned that if they felt their recent output was closer to earlier stuff from the 90s and 2000s.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What the hell is a "provincial American"?

[–] jbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

You don't know the meaning of the word provincial or do you mean you've never encountered it in this context?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Of or relating to a province.

Yeah as I thought. Given that America has no providences, my question was more than fair.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago

Given that America has no providences

I think they believe in Providence?

[–] jbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

That's not how you use the term. Provincial as an adjective isn't solely tied to geographic distribution in counties that formally use provinces as a regional government form.

I explained what I meant in other reply.

I honestly thought you know what I meant and were trying to discuss something else entirely. Sorry about that.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I appreciate you explaining. Sorry for assuming you were being condescending.

[–] jbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago

All good man. It happens with text based online convos. :)

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Ah I see, as I expected, just trying to sound smart. Otherwise you would've just explained it

[–] jbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 22 hours ago

That was a genuine question, I thought you knew what I was saying and questioning the very existence of the concept.

Americans with a provincial outlook; a belief that local mores are the only legitimate way to look at things, lack of interest in different/new ideas.

[–] otterpop@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They basically revived their early 2000s style with this in my opinion, I'd say it's worth watching just to see if you like it

[–] jbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Might have to do it. Their episodes are pretty short, so no big loss if it's shit.