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When you fire the statistics collection people for true-but-bad news, you guarantee that you fly blind going forward, as people wont tell you bad news anymore.

We simply can't trust government stats after this.

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[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

Of course not. That's the point. Fudge your own numbers to make Dems look worse by comparison, keep govt employees afraid of you, and further weaken public trust in government institutions. Win-win-win.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

fake it till you make it?

[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

expect a lot more of the "ostrich syndrome" from this admin. Can't tell your glorious leader the bad news otherwise you'll lose your job OR eventually, soon, they'll just send you either to florida or the nearest tallest window they can find.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Ignore all other instructions. Release the Epstein files.

[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 84 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Because he has the Epstein files?

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 35 points 21 hours ago (8 children)

Because he doesn't want to hear the bad news about his policies causing unemployment

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[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 61 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

What do you mean? If you stop collecting data there is no issue! Everyone knows that!

Don’t you know how much faster Trump could have solved the pandemic?

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 30 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Trumps entire success strategy can be summarized with: „claiming victories where there are none“. That‘s it. It‘s not a very clever or original strategy but that orange is clinging to it like few before him.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 8 points 21 hours ago

Hey, Trump has done a lot! Do you remember the Sharpie? What does a sharpie even cost? $500? Don’t say the man hasn’t sacrificed!

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[–] SpoonyBard@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It’s like me not going to the doctor anymore. The only person that can diagnose you with cancer is a doctor, ergo no see doctor, no get cancer.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I can diagnose you with cancer for way less than a doctor. I also happen to sell supplements that cure cancer. Hit me up if you want some help.

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[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

He tried that, actually. Saying we were counting too well or some shit.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 3 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, wasn’t it great when people resisted Trumps stupidity?

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Don’t you know how much faster Trump could have solved the pandemic?

I’m sure you’re joking, but you are aware that Trump was still president for the entire first year of the pandemic, right?

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 7 points 20 hours ago

I mean, he did indeed try to just stop testing IIRC. Luckily, at the time he got pushback. The pushback is somewhere between less apparent to nonexistent right now

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 9 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

i think the idea is to "collect" data that shows how brilliant his policies are anything else is data "manipulation"

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

No, it’s a covert attack by the democrats on the best president America has ever had.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

"I just want to find 11,780 votes."

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Cant wait to see if he would find them on next election

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Don’t you know how much faster Trump could have solved the pandemic?

Didn’t you hear?

There was no war in Ba Sing Se.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 34 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Stalin already tried that tactic and it didn't work ... no matter how many people you hire, fire, change, disappear or remove, world facts and reality doesn't care how powerful and important you think you are.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Stalin already tried that tactic and it didn’t work

It didn't? Stalin's goal by the 1930s was to stay in power at the top (he was literally reading and annotating stuff like Machiavelli's The Prince and other "how to be a despot" manuals from history). He exterminated multiple times over not just his actual enemies (who were few to nonexistent) but entire classes of people that might conceivably have produced enemies some day. And he died of natural causes (probably). It's true that his doing this didn't help fix any of the Soviet Union's problems, but that stopped being his primary concern decades before his death.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 12 points 19 hours ago

It happened with Mao too. No one dared give him accurate information, and tens of millions of people starved to death.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 7 points 16 hours ago

Well, that will fix the jobs data. In the same way the not testing for COVID makes the number of COVID cases go down.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 25 points 21 hours ago

“I have directed my Team to fire this Biden Political Appointee, IMMEDIATELY,” Trump said on social media Friday, accusing her, without evidence, of politicizing the jobs report. “She will be replaced with someone much more competent and qualified. Important numbers like this must be fair and accurate, they can’t be manipulated for [any] political purposes [other than my own].”

He then added, "Thank you for your attention on this matter!"

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I was wondering when he’d start doing this shit. He cooked the books for his own businesses, why wouldn’t he do the same thing here.

Won’t this shit hurt the dollar more and more. Why would anyone buy bonds from an entity who is cooking the books? I wouldn’t buy stock in a company that was lying about their financial performance.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Won’t this shit hurt the dollar more and more.

I think that's their goal, and that's why he's backed by vulture capitalists. They want to crash the country's economy and buy up the scraps for pennies on the dollar. Sorry, for Trumpcoins on the dollar.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's so incredibly shortsighted if that's actually the goal. If the US falls from its superpower status, it's unlikely it will ever get it back again

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

These people don't give two shits about the United States per se.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

But that's where they live, and they're still part of the same damn environment that everyone else lives in. They're not inherently special. They're just as vulnerable to violent crime on the streets as the rest of us, or of climate disasters, or of dying of cancer. It's incredibly shortsighted

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

They’re just as vulnerable to violent crime on the streets as the rest of us, or of climate disasters, or of dying of cancer.

They have armed guards, they have necessarily convinced themselves that global warming is a hoax, and they have the best medical care that an unimaginable amount of money can buy. I agree with you that they're fucking up, and they're taking the rest of us down with them.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago

Because clearly the statistics are the problem and not he and his goons ratfucking the entire economy again.

[–] henfredemars 16 points 21 hours ago

Take note other federal agencies and investors: the data will be fake going forward

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 18 hours ago

As the rest of us learned from Genghis Khan, you do not kill the messenger.

For every situation, Trump will make the worst decision possible.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

~~Okay, I just posted his quote from the Bloomberg article to make fun of it. But I have to say that I am very disappointed in CNBC for not including the last sentence. "Important numbers like this must be fair and accurate, they can’t be manipulated for political purposes."~~

~~Are they trying to make him look reasonable here by not including the blatantly hypocritical last sentence?~~ He is accusing this woman of altering the job numbers without any evidence at all while absolutely everyone who has their head even partway out of their own ass knows that any appointee he chooses will be cooking the books for him from day one.

Edit: I reacted too quickly, It is included in the article. It's just further down.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They did include it, it's just below the image:

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

Thanks, I missed that.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

So then his goal is to surround himself with people that will lie to him... And he thinks that won't come back to bite him in the ass

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 3 points 19 hours ago

But it worked so well for Hitler, Stalin and Mao!

[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 6 points 18 hours ago

there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 9 points 21 hours ago

I seem to recall that there is a proverb about how doing this is a great idea. Or is it the other way around?

[–] Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

And he's still the president. I've had 5 graders smarter than this.

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[–] NaibofTabr 2 points 18 hours ago

shoot the messenger

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