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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 17 hours ago

You mean to say that you've stolen $150B from working class Americans on the sorts of goods they can't live without, like groceries, home appliances, and the like? Good job!

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's ok because manufacturing has come back. According to some reich wing people I know..

[–] mondomon@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Manufacturing lies is WAYYY up.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago

That comma is bearing the weight of a collapsed star.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Who benifits from the tariffs? Who pays the tariffs? Did it cost more than 150b to gain 150b?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 points 1 day ago

Broad tariffs are basically a sales tax with many extra steps and massive inefficiencies.

Sales taxes are of course, regressive, they disproportionately harm the poor.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 day ago

He and his cronies. Notice how the markets will always spike merely a few hours just before he announces them; certain people know ahead and will buy tons of stocks accordingly. It’s blatant market manipulation, done in plain sight.

These tariffs also gives him the illusion of power over other nations, which he craves most, like the bully he is.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The person or company who imports the goods pays the tariffs. The tariffs go to the US Treasury where they are mixed with other revenue like income tax. The government then spends that money on all of the usual stuff.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just to add, the company importing those goods then increases prices to make up for the expense, passing the costs to consumers (Americans). I think that is an important note.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

so, military and harassing citizens?

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Unmarked vans, black sites, and plain clothes SS don't just grow on trees

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

(We also will not be spending any of that money on trees)

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, is there an incentive for the tariff payer to keep cost lower and not pass it on to consumer?

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

The buyer pays the tariff. There's always an incentive for buyers to keep costs low, tariff or not.

For sellers there might be an incentive to reduce prices under some circumstances:

  1. If the seller can't compete with American products once tariff is added - rarely applicable and you may as well see American products increase their prices to increase profits
  2. If your customers are very price sensitive and might go without your product or find an alternative (so not medication, but some foods perhaps) but you would expect those products to already have low margins so you can't really reduce your prices
[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah but it will all go to Billionaires in the form of shady government contracts. So trickle up economics.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

The up-trickle billionaires are currently living with:

[–] DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works 10 points 23 hours ago

Yay! We're winning!

[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Trump: I need money. I couldn't care less who will pay it. Can you suggest any other source of free money for my needs? No? Shut up and pay then.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump would say "could care less"

or I would assume so, anyways

[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 7 points 1 day ago

You can't teach old Trump new covfefes.

[–] henfredemars 4 points 1 day ago

The federal reserve could use the money printer.

Trump: On it! Just need to do something about that damn Powel guy.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 20 hours ago

oh but he is going to get rid of income tax.......later.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

It's from US you fucking dumb shit

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago

I wonder who that's all going to

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know the guy who designed the wheel they spin when coming up with numbers for the masses.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago