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[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

I was going to get rage-baited into making a "point" about reasoning and how Trump wasn't a "native" American... but I'm resisting the engagement temptation. There is no "logic", it's all about gathering privileges then justifying how to prevent others from doing the same. There is no reasoning, no logic, not even ideology.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 20 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They will steal America and imprison, kill or deport anyone who they don't like. How many steps to fascism before enough people act?

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

Well, stealing land and getting rid of people they don't like are among the core founding values of America so this tracks.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 6 points 11 hours ago

Deport Barron!

[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 5 points 13 hours ago

Good then after that they can deport Trump and his family into a volcano.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 17 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

One benefit of birthright citizenship is its egalitarian simplicity: The only thing most people need to prove that they’re American is a birth certificate. Those lucky enough to be born here receive equality under the law from their very first breath. Trump seeks to replace that system with a caste-based vision of national identity in which every parent must provide documentation to secure their children’s fundamental rights.

Would it be correct to describe this as "apartheid"?

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago

Yes, to the out group, this will be an apartheid.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 19 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

It looks Republicans want to just shuttle them around like they do with homeless people, rounding them up from red states, dumping them in blue states, and pretending they solved a problem.

Fine, let's play this game. Trump rounds up citizens he dislikes, pretends they aren't american citizens, ships them off to other countries who then say "these aren't our citizens so we're shipping them back." It's cruel, which he's okay with, but also expensive because they will constantly be sent back to the US to deal with, which is expensive and the costs will only grow since there is no real plan to deal with them. Costs can be used to hurt him politically.

So what's the point? You cant just put people in other countries, say "not it" and walk away.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Slavery. They'll make them work for free, as if that's not almost the case anyway. They might make 2 more cents a day to go on top of their millions a day, so who cares?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 7 points 16 hours ago

the rich: "I hate how I have most of the money instead of all of the money."

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

You cant just put people in other countries, say “not it” and walk away

Republicans: "Hold my beer"

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 18 points 21 hours ago

At some point the people will unify on a single point : demand the administration resign in entirety

Until we do that and March coast to coast saying the same simple message this won’t end

“You’re fired”

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Under these rules, Trump himself isn't a citizen

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago

Hitler didn't have blonde hair either

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago

And his, ahem, 'wife' is definitely not.

Here's another thing to think about... This is another distraction because the obese tangerine is on the Epsteins kiddie fiddling list. He's a convicted rapist and rapes children.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 21 hours ago

Back to Oompa Loompa Land he goes.

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[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

He is now much closer to his goal

Removing the citizenship of all non white people

[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump just released Miller's plan

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Italian plumbers need to pay that cucked pedophile a visit

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 100 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Wait... I thought these morons said life begins at conception. Shouldn't citizenship be determined at that time, then?

They can't even get their own story straight.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 34 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Life begins at the moment of insertion.

Citizenship begins when your skin passes the paint swatch test.

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[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If not for double standards, Republicans would have no standards at all.

The hypocrisy is baked into their ideology. They don't need to be consistent, it is all about "winning" to them. Words mean nothing, except as a method to "win".

[–] 5C5C5C@programming.dev 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Words mean nothing, except as a method to "win".

This is literally how demons are in Frieren.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

I feel like that's giving them too much credit, The demons in Frieren aren't immoral they're just ammoral, they straight up don't have a concept of morality or empathy except from an external point of view as this strange human behaviour they can manipulate. Fascist on the other than are human and do understand morality and empathy and then choose to ignore and weaponize them anyway, they have so much more malice than a fictional demon.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Now you are getting it.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I don't know what any of that that means, but I was paraphrasing Sartre:

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

By "anti-Semites" Sartre is of course referring to the Nazis and their sympathisers (it was written in 1944).

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