Bill McKibben: It must be kind of disorienting to realize that the fossil fuel industry is, for the moment, in charge of a lot of things.
Emily Atkin: It can make you feel like, what do we do?
BK: But here's the interesting thing about it—they're clearly very scared too. They've spent more money than they ever have on politics before. They're doubling down in every possible way—state, local, federal. They understand that they face an unprecedented threat.