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[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Marchetti never went to NYC.

[–] hersh@literature.cafe 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I was thinking that it sounded about right, until I read beyond the headline:

Its value is approximately one hour, or half an hour for a one-way trip.

WHAT. I thought he meant one hour each way!

Are there any cities where that is the norm??? I've had sub-30 commutes in my life, and it felt like the height of luxury.

I had a 1.5 hour (one way) commute for a while, and I was burned the fuck out after a year of that. It takes a toll on your health.

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[–] MelonYellow@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Zedd00@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Or San Francisco. My longest commute was 3.5 hours each way. Average over 15 years there was 90 minutes.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

holyshitwhatthefuck?

The longest days are like tacking on a whole 'nother day.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

laugh-cries in 4 hour commute to a job only 50 miles away

Fuck the Altamonte, man... Where's our fucking high-speed train?

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If my commute isn’t a 30 second walk to my home office I won’t take the job.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Back in the 90’s and 2000’s my commute ranged between 30-60 minutes by car one way to a combination of 15 minutes driving and 30-45 minutes on a subway.

Since shortly before the pandemic my commute has been up a flight of stairs to our guest bedroom that’s now my office.

I’m never going back.

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[–] danhab99@programming.dev 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A 1hr commute represents 16% of your day, how much of my day should be wasted commuting

[–] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Two hours (round trip) divided by 24 (in a day) works out to .0833, ~8%. I can't get 16 I'm not sure where that's coming from.

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[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They should make this a literal law for car commutes. Waste of gas, waste of human sanity, and a bane of CO2 emissions.

I would almost go so far as to call commuting further a mark of a class traitor, but also, to make it worth it, you should be making enough to put you in the top 10% of earners anyways ... I guess I'll specify, you should be netting that much after gas and taxes, and if not, let me ask you: Why, just why do that to yourself?

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Maybe that would work in sane countries, but in the USA people lost their shit when someone merely suggested cities should be walkable.

Some people lost their shit, and the media made them out to be the majority. Individual states and counties still have more power and influence than you might think.

Not that I'm not eyeing my escape routes to a saner country anyways.

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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I assume because they can't find work closer to them, and can't afford to move / have something holding them where they are at that time. No one's doing it because they want too

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[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago

Neat. Anecdotally I can confirm that as I work construction so have a variable commute. 30 minutes is fine, 45 an inconvenience, and an hour having me thinking about quitting.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

There was a pretty large, family-run business near me, it was a pretty popular local landmark, and it sat on a pretty big property, probably a handful of acres.

The owner died, his kids didn't really want to run the place, so they did everything they could to run it into the ground so that they say that it wasn't profitable to avoid some of the backlash from closing it down.

They had some sort of scheme to turn it into housing for homeless veterans. Noble enough idea I suppose, though I don't know how they thought that was going to work, let alone be profitable.

Of course there was a bit of the usual NIMBY backlash, veterans or not, a lot of people don't particularly want some low income housing project springing up in their neighborhood.

But more importantly, it just didn't seem like anyone was particularly interested in living there.

This is sort of the rural end of the suburbs. We're not out in the country, I'd hesitate to even call it exurban, but things are less dense, not much is walkable, no public transportation, there's not all that much around. A couple of the basics are nearby like a grocery store, but not much beyond that.

If you have a car and money for gas, it's not a terrible place to be, pretty much anything you could want is within about a 30-45 minute drive, if traffic cooperates, you might even be able to get downtown in the city in about an hour.

But thinking about it in the context of a bunch of homeless people, what the hell are they supposed to do? Not many opportunities for them to find work around there, certainly not anything well-paying enough to help them improve their situation by much. If they need any sort of mental health or drug/alcohol treatment, their options would be severely limited there. It's not at all convenient to the VA hospital nearest to us. And unless they manage to get their hands on a car, they'd basically be stuck there to sit at home, or maybe wander around town and do nothing in particular.

So that project never got off the ground.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Then his law has failed.

There are plenty of successful housing areas much farther out than 30 minutes one way (the 1 hour is daily). Nearly everyone I know has a longer commute than that.

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[–] griff@lemmings.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

take the train Jane (refresh your brain)

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