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    cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/33746300

    The worst thing about Linux is its users

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    [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    Who "won't" switch to Linux? Emigrating to Linux is just not as simple as these people believe.

    Some of us have our entire lives on Windows that will take forever to migrate with all the obligations and the crushing weight of work that we have to handle in our day to day life.

    How society would thrive if we had true freedom.

    [–] AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 minutes ago

    It's not moving to a different city or country lol. Upload what you need to a cloud and put linux on a usb and install. If this takes you longer than a week.... Then idk.

    Only those apps that aren't linux compatible is a pain the ass

    [–] Rooty@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

    I am the smug well guy in this picture. You can complain and whine about Microsoft's shitty practices to people who have no way of effecting them..oooorr you can use a different OS. Kind of a "better to light a candle than to curse the darkness" deal.

    [–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 8 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

    There’s barely anything you β€œneed” Windows for anymore. Especially as something like 99% of most people’s PC usage is web (including cloud-hosted Office type apps).

    [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    You say this, but you haven't met all the programs I have to use for work.

    [–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone -1 points 6 hours ago

    Yeah, but if Microsoft spy on your work machine that’s the company’s problem. I still have to use Visual Studio, but not for anything out of work.

    [–] Wolf@lemmy.today 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

    The solution to this is to organize with your coworkers and seize the means of production, and then vote to use only Free, Libre, and Open Source Software from now on. Easy peasy.

    [–] plyth@feddit.org 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

    That's why the NSA classifies Linux Journal readers as extremists.

    [–] Wolf@lemmy.today 4 points 5 hours ago

    I mean, at this point if you aren't already on a list you are probably a bad person.

    [–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

    I mean, tbf, your other option is a violent takeover of the Microsoft corporation, complete with rifles and grenades and stuff, so like, by comparison "fucking install mint or fedora ffs" sounds a lot easier.

    I mean yee I agree "microstof should just stop asshole," but good fucking luck with that..

    [–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 5 hours ago

    Finally, someone is starting to get a hint of what needs to happen with all those monopolies.

    [–] mugita_sokiovt@discuss.online 4 points 13 hours ago

    My producer had used Linux for almost 5 years by now (on the 20th of this month), and I had used it for just around the same amount of time (shorter than him).

    This is way truer than you think in my opinion....

    [–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 21 points 22 hours ago

    "I wish I wish upon a star for a multi billion dollar monopoly to self-regulate"

    [–] nibby@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    As someone who considers themselves a "Linux-evangelist" and has run it exclusively on my devices for years, I really despise that the goto method for recruiting others is to shit on other OSs and claim that Linux beats them all. Whilst you're not wrong and all your arguments are true, nobody wants to listen to that.

    The most succesful campaigns I have seen has been to gently introduce people to Linux and let them play around with it. Alot of people really just liked it, but where more open to adopt since they arrived at the conclusion on their own, instead of being force-fed it.

    [–] Wolf@lemmy.today 1 points 9 hours ago

    I think it highly depends on the person. I have never been a 'brand loyal' type person. It was very likely Linux users clowning on Windows and OS X that got me interested enough to check it out.

    I do believe you though, some people even if you simply try to correct their misconceptions about Linux get super defensive. It's like Stockholm Syndrome, but for OS's.

    The most succesful campaigns I have seen has been to gently introduce people to Linux and let them play around with it.

    I think the Steam Deck is helping in this area. People turn on 'Desktop Mode' just to try it and see that it's not some scary esoteric thing, but basically works just like Windows or Mac.

    [–] Mesophar@pawb.social 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

    Just today I had to explain to a coworker how I grew to love Linux because I was hating Windows, I don't hate Windows because I love Linux. And I don't want to hate Windows, I wish they were slowly becoming anti-user, but they keep adding (forcing) features that are so unfriendly to the user.

    I had to help someone figure out why their new storage drive wasn't showing up, and it was because Windows has something called "Storage Spaces", turning "unused" storage drives into a sort of virtual raid local One Drive. It's a neat idea, but it hides the physical drive from File Explorer and Disk Management. That should be a feature you have to intentionally configure and enable, not something that can just happen automatically.

    [–] Wolf@lemmy.today 2 points 9 hours ago

    That is diabolical and gross. Definitely should be opt-in.

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    [–] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Software and games.

    No matter some people claims, there are always software/games that simply won't run on Linux or no alternative available.

    [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    The newer updates to Wine are making that less relevant.

    [–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    I only play competitive online. Kernel anti-cheat does not work on Linux.

    [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    Competitive online gaming is a very small niche of the gaming community.

    [–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 1 points 32 minutes ago (1 children)

    I beg to differ. Otherwise there would already have been an exodus to linux

    [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 19 minutes ago (1 children)

    People are on Windows because of inertia.

    If you look at just PC gaming, Steam charts show that the big competitive kernel-level AC titles are way down, the biggest one is the newest Rainbow 6, with 80k players of the 36 million people active on Steam right now, 10 million being in-game. Funny thing is, the biggest Steam title is indeed a competitive online shooter, CS2, but it runs fine on Linux.

    If it was competitive gaming that was the only reason people aren't on Linux, most other segments would have seen a mass migration already. Competitive games can't explain why 95%+ of the community is not on Linux.

    [–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 1 points 11 minutes ago (1 children)

    I'm on Windows because the games i want to play doesn't work on linux. Simple as that.

    [–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 minutes ago (1 children)

    I know. What I'm saying is that your experience isn't universal.

    [–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

    Numbers don't lie.

    I'm gently nudging my kid towards Linux though. But i have a feeling he will swap as soon as he encounters resistance or technical issues. Such as not being able to play the "new" game with his friends.

    [–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

    Kernel anti-cheat does not work on Linux

    And hopefully never will.

    Please keep the spyware on the spyware operating system.

    I've been a Linux user nearly exclusively) for over 20 years, I still keep an iPad and a windows desktop around for government stuff because the their apps and websites don't work on my hardened systems (sus) or through TOR (less sus).

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    [–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

    Kernel anti-cheat won't work on windows soon anyways

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    [–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    My first genie wish is for the EU to declare Windows 7 public domain and set up a team to maintain security and driver updates for it.

    [–] notarobot@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

    What about instead working on react OS? (Not made in react)

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    [–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    I mean, there are only ~~two~~ three realistic options (four if you are that one BSD user):

    • Either you use Windows and let Microsoft spy on you (or rely on unbloating scripts which might eventually break your OS and not even block all Microsoft spyware in the first place);

    • You buy overpriced Mac computer, that might also spy on you, who knows;

    • You use Linux.

    [–] SloganLessons@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Apple does spy on you, but unlike Google and Microsoft, they don’t sell your data.

    But you still have to decide if you trust them with your info

    Linux is the way to go* if you absolutely want to avoid any kind of spyware

    *be mindful of the distro you choose. Some do have telemetry

    [–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

    If the telemetry is opt-in with a dialog window at first boot explaining why developers need telemetry, i don't see the problem. It's the difference between data freely given to help improve the system vs. data taken without consent to make you a better advertisement target.

    edit: and i am pretty sure that the average FOSS-dev has way better ethics than the average microsoft data broker.

    [–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Apple does spy on you, but unlike Google and Microsoft, they don’t sell your data.

    They are an American company though, so who knows how secure their data really is if a rich person decides they really want access.

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    [–] atk007@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

    Fair enough, but most solutions to restrict data gathering by windows are often worked around by Microsoft via eventual windows updates which is a perpetual risk. In my experience, using Linux is less of a headache in the long run.

    [–] Jhex@lemmy.world 71 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    About 15 years ago I gave Linux a try, liked it and showed it to my wife who is less technical than me. She said she found it nicer than windows so I put it in the common computer and never looked back.

    You can find as many excuses not to use Linux as I can give you reasons and solutions to try it... at the end of the day, try it, don't try it, it's your decision and you get to live with the consequences of those decisions. Me evangelizing about Linux is just as painful as hearing Window users complain about it yet unwilling to do anything but whine about it

    If you do give it a try and have an issue, there are plenty places to get help for Linux better than the MS forums, this is undeniable.

    Also, notice Windows is like bumper cars while Linux is like the entire vehicle fleet of the world, you want to drive a tank, you got it... wanna drive a super car, got it... wanna drive a hot air balloon that moves on good wishes, Linux has one distro just like that... you probably should not learn to drive in a Ferrari when you are late for work, choose a beginner friendly distro and move on from there at your pace if you feel like it

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