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It's worth watching the full video here.

On top of the missing minute, there's the following discrepancies (and many more that I don't remember off hand)

  • The camera footage is at an angle where you can't see one of the staircases to Epstein's cell. Someone could easily avoid that camera.
  • There's a 3rd person that comes in at 12:05 that's not identified in the report
  • The aspect ratio changes halfway through, suggesting a bad splicing
  • You can see a mouse cursor at one point

And from pelespirit

https://lemmy.world/comment/18546945

To add on to OP's discrepancy bullet list, the aspect ratio changed after the missing minute and the meta data says "saved" a few times. Meaning, it isn't raw data, there's no way.

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[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 104 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah I'm gonna confidently say the moon landing was 100% not faked if this is how incompetent the government is. Not that there was ever any doubt before

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 55 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The thing that always makes me laugh at the moon landing hoaxers is that using late 1960s technology, it would have been cheaper and easier to actually go to the moon and take pictures and video from there than it would have been to fake all of it.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago

That's one of my favorite jokes.

They faked the moon landing but hired Stanley Kubrick to direct it, and he insisted on filming on location.

[–] mechanismatic@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Mitchell and Webb had a great sketch about that.

https://youtu.be/P6MOnehCOUw

[–] Hasherm0n@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

You've probably seen this already, but for those that haven't, this is a great video on this particular fact.

https://youtu.be/_loUDS4c3Cs

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The same holds true for basically all the big conspiracies.

cheney and bush did 9-11! massive conspiracy resulting in 3000+ deaths (just add on all the first responders) OR 3000+ crisis actors going into hiding and NOBODY talked about it.

Or trump and musk managed to steal the election, during the Biden administration, and neither of them talked about it even while calling each other drug addicts and pedophiles and being unable to stop telling on themselves in every other way.

And when the people who would be keeping these secrets are some of the dumbest mother fuckers on the planet?

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Or trump and musk managed to steal the election

This is pretty credible and your evidence against it is weak, given that it would do them both harm by trying to use it against the other

[–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also musk did claim the election was stolen in his crash out a few months ago

Yeah musk has actually admitted to it

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would love to see the evidence you have supporting this (we can skip over how trump, musk, and big balls himself haven't blabbed) and I desperately hope you aren't someone else who is going to link to a god damned Chris Titus podcast.

Because all the analysis on demographics and survey results very much paint the picture of a hateful and racist plurality coming up against apathy and stupidity.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

search for "this will hold" and see if anything moves you there.

The intersting thing to me is the discrepancy in the split between president & downballot voting between mail in and polling-station votes. It's very different.

the other thing is winning every swing state and 88 counties (88, get it) while Dems flipped none. And the claim everything is "just under" the mandatory recount levels.

Yeah could just be we suck but it's possible we're also stupid.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

First result for "This will hold" is a blog with the tagline "The truth they're not telling you". So... could you point me to actual data rather than making me read through the raving of a lunatic? I mean, this is clearly a big deal so there must be something solid, right?

the discrepancy in the split between president & downballot voting between mail in and polling-station votes.

  • AOC actually did a lot of outreach to her constituents after realizing that a significant chunk of them voted for her AND trump. The gist of it is that it was the same populist movement that trump rode in 2016 combined with "something needs to change". People are a lot less political than we think and they want to vote for outsiders who will drain the swamp. Which is something that a lot of analysts (and people who listen to them) have known since even before 2012 but that was made very very clear on both the left and the right. In a lot of ways, AOC was elected in the first place because of this.
  • Absentee ballots have generally always favored Democrats (https://electionlab.mit.edu/sites/default/files/2021-03/HowWeVotedIn2020-March2021.pdf is a good summary from 2021). In large part because it favors young professionals who don't see a reason to wait for election day (more educated. More likely to actually be aware of politics) as well as, people living overseas (who tend to also be more educated), and, funny enough, military people who actually care and have been exposed to other cultures and peoples. This is why trump et al are so against them. And it is why there is generally a blue wave at the start of election night and things then tighten up

the other thing is winning every swing state

Again, actually look at analysis of the demographics. https://catalist.us/whathappened2024/ is a good breakdown but it mostly can be summarized as "men are monsters. whites and hispanics continue to be religious"

As for the rest: I am not even going to pretend "the nazi number came up so it must be rigged" is worth responding to.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So... could you point me to actual data rather than making me read through the raving of a lunatic?

Hahah - probably not, but I wouldn't convince you of anything anyway. Everyone wants the final tally/result I-can-read edition, I know. That usually takes awhile (like in the JFK assassination for ex . oh wait, no bad example. Anyway)

AOC actually did a lot of outreach to her constituents after realizing that a significant chunk of them voted for her AND trump. The gist of it is that it was the same populist movement that trump rode in 2016 combined with "something needs to change".

Hm - I'd like to see that, do you remember where you saw it? The person who voted for AOC and Trump is a seriously confused or stupid individual but that's not saying much I know.

Comments aren't a good forum for the topic, it really needs a community channel but; it is what it is.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Hahah - probably not, but I wouldn’t convince you of anything anyway.

No. If you actually presented data I could read and try to understand that. Rather than just "listen to this blogger I like and vibe your way to The Truth for only 15 dollars a month"

And a quick google (well, actually kagi) of "AOC supporters voted trump" brings up https://www.newsweek.com/aoc-supporters-donald-trump-split-ticket-reasons-establishment-1983849.

The person who voted for AOC and Trump is a seriously confused or stupid individual

I mean... it is a recurring problem when people refuse to consider facts or evidence and just run on vibes and whoever says what they want to hear.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

The New York Democrat asked her followers on Instagram to explain why they voted the way they did, specifically asking those who backed Trump for the presidential election but voted Democrat for down-ballot races why they split their ticket.

Ookay, I mean I wouldn't call an Instagram post "a lot of outreach" and the data set limitations are obvious but whatever.

"I voted Trump, but I like you and Bernie. I don't trust either party's establishment politicians," one reply said.

Social media replies = discrepancies totally explained? No. Interesting, but no.

And New York wasn't a swing state, so kind of a moot point overall on the question of swing state voters.

[–] SteveNashFan@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bush did 9-11 is dumb, because he would have chose a symbolic NY site instead of an economically critical one: the Statue of Liberty (aka, Deus Ex got it right).

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

But then Marvin wouldn't have made millions

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago

Who do you think killed MLK? Just curious

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 72 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The video rolls, almost uninterrupted, for the next 11 hours. At 6:30 a.m., corrections officers can be seen rushing across the frame. The Justice Department later disclosed that that's when Epstein's body was discovered.

Over the course of the night, the staff on duty failed to conduct the required 30-minute check-ins on Epstein while he spent the night alone in his cell.

How convenient! They missed 22 required check-ins on the night he was ~~murdered~~ died by suicide. Sure, sure, sure.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago

And just happened to transfer his cell mate out that morning. And camera issues started that day and ended the next. And both guards happened to fall asleep at the same time. All coincidence. Please no questions about the unmonitored phone call to his "mother" who died a decade earlier.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, they missed those check-ins the night before as well as the previous week. They had been sleeping on the job and lying about it, but no one checked the tapes until Epstein died.

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hate when I sleep edit footage. -s

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Why would the guard edit the footage? They were fired years ago and the edit was likely a few weeks back.

[–] Brosplosion@lemmy.zip 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Conspiracy theory:

Video jockey that was told to doctor the footage purposefully did a bad job so that it would get noticed immediately by anyone looking close enough but good enough it got published.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or Barron Trump edited it. He's good with the cyber.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He’s like 19 now right? Old enough to commit his first rape, keep up the Trump tradition

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago

That's generous of you to think they start that late. 🤢

[–] Back_it_up@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

THAT'S how we win! What's it called? [something] Compliance...

[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To add on to OP's discrepancy bullet list, the aspect ratio changed after the missing minute and the meta data says "saved" a few times. Meaning, it isn't raw data, there's no way.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

Also the mouse cursor kinda gives that away.

[–] regedit@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago
Dons tinfoil hat. 

They totally brought in a murderer, already serving time, and offered him something to kill Epstein. Find out what inmate went from no possibility of parole and under extremely close guard, to more relaxed stay and favorable changes, and you might have the unknown inmate seen in the footage. These people are rich assholes who, like the rich assholes buying creative studios to pump out copy/paste media, have nothing creative in their head except for how good they think they are because of their (likely inherited) wealth.

They've already proven how utterly incompetent they are with the video edit and release. There's no way they put much thought into the actual act and believed getting some big, bad murderer to do the deed would be untraceable.

(Also, if they're really dumb then the inmate would have suddenly died soon after his circumstances changed.)

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Employees told investigators that Epstein had just finished an unmonitored call, later reported to have been with his girlfriend in Belarus.

Hello. Belarus?

Hmmmmmm

[–] Regna@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The video won’t load. Otoh, we have pihole adblockers. Is there an alternative?