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    [–] encrust9870@lemmy.world 134 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Maybe decades ago, but not now.

    [–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 70 points 4 months ago

    Yeah, Mac stuff is white or silver now. They stopped doing the colourful stuff 20-odd years ago.

    [–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 46 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Mac osx has unix command prompts built in and the ability to containerize out of the gate. Windows requires WSL and a bunch of other shit to achieve a substantially worse effect.

    [–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago

    The out of the box containerization is still pretty new though β€” it’s like a month old

    [–] Sylence@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Exactly. Modern Windows is like Tesla - shiny exterior built on top of garbage cobbled together with paperclips and duct tape. No visible knobs, no easy to access features, everything hidden behind layers of needless menus and abstraction with the express goal to extract maximum value from their 'customers'.

    I'm not an Apple fanboy by any means but I feel like the two ecosystems are much closer now than they were 10-15 years ago.

    [–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Kids use Chromebooks everywhere I’ve seen the past 5+ years.

    [–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

    Not even decades ago. ResEdit was one way we hacked old Macs back in the day.

    [–] muhyb@programming.dev 114 points 4 months ago

    It's an older meme sir but it doesn't check out anymore.

    [–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    This is some boomer level β€œhurr hurr” bullshit that is just patently not true. Keep giving Microsoft credit it doesn’t deserve.

    [–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 9 points 4 months ago

    Right? Windows is like a Tesla. One of those wankpanzers that cut off your fingers, brick in the car wash and immolate their drivers.

    [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

    The trashing of the Apple machines is undeserved, but the Windows one is relatively accurate.

    Windows is the thing that everybody uses, like a car. But, it should be a modern car where the car manufacturer requires you to pay a yearly subscription to unlock basic features that shipped with the car. It's a car that you can't fix yourself, and have to take to an authorized service station where they pay a fee to get access to the tools that allow them to diagnose the car.

    I don't know what the Mac one should be. A modern Mac is really powerful. It's a Unix machine with a clean and polished UI. But, it's true that it shields the average user from the complexity if they don't want to dig deeper. Maybe it's a modern Bugatti. A luxurious vehicle that has obscene power under the hood.

    [–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 41 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    I'd reverse Windows and Mac. Mac is sleek, smooth, pleasant, well integrated, solid, stable, and has a good shell. They have great machines with great specs and are well built. They also take some learning to become efficient with.

    Windows on the other hand, is cheap, buggy, ugly, unstable, comes pre-packaged with flashy junk, breaks easily, any child can use it and then break it.

    [–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    I completely agree. As a software developer I preferred when I had a Mac whereas our company uses Windows and Microsoft for everything and it just meh.

    Mac was so easy to do everything from the terminal or the search bar.

    [–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 10 points 4 months ago

    Plus I like how they have the Homebrew packaging system to install pretty much anything you need.

    Windows has something similar with chocolatey but it's just not as complete. It's not *nix apps either.

    [–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Flip Windows and macOS and I think the meme works again.

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    [–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Windows needs to be big brother watching at all times while forcing ads down your throat.

    Apple just needs a very high price tag.

    [–] skooma_king@piefed.social 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Even that needs a disclaimer. I was ordering some SFF PCs for my org last week and was kind of shocked how much the Lenovo and Dell PCs in that form factor were.. out of curiosity I specc’d a Mac Mini with the same RAM and storage and they came in a little cheaper with a better processor. Only caveat is the lack of USB A ports, but dongles are super cheap anyway. If my users wouldn’t need training to use them I would definitely have considered (maybe even preferred from a device management perspective) the Mac Mini.

    [–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

    Factor in an energy cost savings as part of the TCO. A M4 Mini will save considerable energy over any comparable machine.

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    [–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago

    For the love of Pete, not this again.

    Many flavors of Linux are more simple and user friendly than Windows or Mac.

    Mac is unix-based and very similar to Linux in many ways.

    Windows is like that car that Homer Simpson designed.

    [–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
    [–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 months ago

    This is Mac

    And this is Windows

    [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

    I’m gonna say windows is more like a cybertruck truck. Full of bloat, spyware, and half the features are not like to slice a finger off than do what it’s supposed to- and definitely not bullet proof.

    [–] sanderium@lemmy.zip 18 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    As much as I hate MacOS I love their interface aesthetic.

    [–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    And it's an official Unix system, which seems to bother some Linux users.

    [–] OpenStars@piefed.social 4 points 4 months ago

    POSIX compliance jealousy? πŸ€ͺ

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    [–] socsa@piefed.social 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    MacBooks are legitimately just superior laptops, especially now that apple silicon is well supported. I don't like iPhones or their desktops, but the laptops are pretty much unmatched in terms of portability, features, battery life etc

    I am an unabashed Linux stan but I use a macbook to ssh into my Linux boxes because there is no Linux laptop which is half as good.

    [–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 17 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    As an engineer, I would rather develop on Mac than any other OS. I have shit to do and need to work in a POSIX compliant OS without bloat, while also not worrying about my OS install getting borked arbitrarily because I looked at it wrong.

    [–] sobchak@programming.dev 6 points 4 months ago

    Weird, I've been forced to use a Mac for work, never liked it. I prefer Debian or other non-rolling-release distros with long term support, and haven't had a Linux install get messed up in many years (since I used Arch, and something went wrong with my proprietary Nvidia drivers after an update).

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    [–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

    I'll take any excuse that I can get to dump this story somewhere. A relative of mine has bought an iMac. She created some videos with it. After some time has passed, the Mac's native Apple media player (I forgot the name) refused to play the videos she has created with the Apple iMac software. But it conveniently pointed her to a 20 € "upgrade" that she could buy to make it work again. She asked me for help, I installed MPV instead. Worked like a charm. On an unrelated note, that thing is glued together, and the storage is soldered on, likewise is the ram.

    "Apple's design is so simple!". Why do people put up with this trash?

    Edit: I forgot to mention all of the videos were in Apple's own .mov format.

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    [–] Alph4d0g@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    It's interesting to see a modern, POSIX compliant, Unix implementation characterized as a children's toy. These arguments are simple minded. I develop on a Mac, and deploy it to Linux in most cases. And yes I do understand that this is also possible on widows now - but not my preference.

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    [–] 01189998819991197253 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Lies. I see no cameras and keyloggers on the windows side.

    [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

    I was going to say that to make this accurate they need to show the complete car for windows.

    There is a copilot in the passenger seat writing down everything you do and making suggestions left and right, and the screen has to have ad's on it.

    The back seats are empty and the rear doors are locked because you don't havn't licensed them.

    [–] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 months ago

    Windows is most definitely not a fucking viper. Try Reliant Robin

    [–] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Windows being a viper? Absofuckinglutely not, the viper being a way to powerful, analog and hands on car is the exact opposite of windows. Windows is more comparable to a modern, but badly build, electric car with all of the spyware and the features that comes with that.

    [–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    The viper was a poorly made, uncomfortable, weird car with some stupid and inconvenient design choices. It was also not very reliable, used way too much fuel, and had serious safety issues. I think it's a perfect analogy for windows.

    [–] otacon239@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

    This is all true with the addition that the Viper looks fucking sick even with those issues. Windows just looks lame no matter what.

    [–] StrixUralensis@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    First edition vipers didn't even have door handles on the outside since the concept car on which it was ~~copy-pasted~~ based on didn't have them either

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    [–] daq@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    My 97yo grandma uses Linux without even being aware what OS she's on. Web sites open the same. Telegram works the same.

    Anyone saying Linux isn't user friendly hasn't used it in decades or ever.

    Most Windows/macos users wouldn't be able to install those either so that's a non argument.

    [–] nginx@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Linux is user-friendly, but it is way more customisable than either Windows or MacOs

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    [–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    The only way that has any accuracy is if the Linux photo has a button that quite literally manages most of the other buttons for you, and the more complicated stuff exists really only if you want to do it manually.

    You can get by just fine literally never touching any of those buttons day-to-day. But they're there for the people who want to get down in the mud with their operating system.

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    figures windows would have the steering wheel on the wrong side. it's all backwards.

    Mac is in this weird bubble where it can be the kid with a toy wheel or the airplane cockpit.

    Mostly people using it are using it like a baby toy though

    [–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago

    No. MacOS is far more capable (there is a bit of bullshit with signing now though).

    Chromebooks on the otherhand...

    [–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    My distaste for Apple products largely stems from their lack of video games. And price tags. And interface. And their users (except CGP Grey, I forgive him).

    [–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

    Games are ramping up as the hardware landscape flattens performance wise. Keep an eye on it.

    They have built or are building the same tools Nvidia is for things like scaling and frame generation too. They have porting tools they never had in the past now, and they iterate on them every year.

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    [–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

    sorts by controversial

    [–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

    I think I first saw this (or something close) on reddit in like 2010 which even then was dated. Really brings me back in a "that shit fucking sucked" way.

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