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There are no ICE detention centers in Hawaii, so the federal government has placed immigrants in prisons. ICE in February signed an agreement with the Federal Bureau of Prisons—part of the Justice Department—to reserve space for ICE detainees, according to the Honolulu Civil Beat, which reported residents from out of state being transferred to Hawaii as early as June.

Immigration lawyers in Hawaii told the Civil Beat that they are concerned residents of other states are not getting effective counsel in Hawaii; even if they had a lawyer, it’s difficult to stay in touch thousands of miles away, they told the Civil Beat.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are you fucking kidding me? So now we are putting people in prison who did literally nothing but exist? This is absolute horseshit..

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So now we are putting people in prison who did literally nothing but exist?

That's immigration policy in a nutshell.

Looking for work, find an employer, travel to the worksite, take the job, do the labor. Ask for your pay, employer calls the cops on you and complains that you crossed the imaginary line. Now you're guilty of the crime of doing labor in the wrong place without papers the employer knew you'd never be able to receive from a government that's working hand-in-glove with an employer for the intentional exploitation of your labor.

Friendly reminder that liberals had a legislative majority in 2009 and 2020 to pass immigration reforms and did not do so. Meanwhile, they spent billions of dollars making a show of arresting and deporting more people than Bush 43 and Trump 45, hoping they could win over anti-immigrant voters who'd been wiped into a lather by reactionary corporate media.

ICE budgets have been expanding with every legislative cycle since the department's inception via the Homeland Security Act of 2002. We have a broad bipartisan consensus that policing - particularly anti-immigrant policing - budgets can only go up. And the only open question is how much these budgets need to rise.

Same with Pentagon budgets and Intelligence / Counter-terrorism budgets. Social Security and Medicare and Education and Housing are forever "bankrupt", but there's always money in the banana stand for military, police, and espionage.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

In 2020 they had a 50-50 tie in the senate with Manchin and Sinema as two asshats who would side often with the Republicans. Thats not the majority you're making it out to be. If you're going to call the dems out (which we absolutely should), put it in a context thats accurate.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

they had a 50-50 tie in the senate with Manchin and Sena as two asshats

Bush had the same problem in 2001 and still managed a flood of legislation during the 107th Congress, despite McCain's grandstanding.

The mentality of "This majority isn't a real majority because I don't know how to whip votes" is more destructive to the Democratic agenda than any amount of Republican obstruction.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are we going with the this is a team sport crap again?I dont think it is anybody job to "whip votes". We need multiple competing parties in congress ,not a bunch of yes men and women who just vote how they're told.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I dont think it is anybody job to “whip votes”.

What do you think the Chief Deputy Whips are assigned to do?

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago

im jumping in here that if the democrats were not diverse enough to have disagreements I likely would not like the party. There is the reason democrats have a harder time passing things and that is because they are not a one thing only party which the republicans are (lower taxes on the rich). There are all sorts of things the republicans used to have as whats important to them that they have abandoned except for lowering taxes. Everything else is just fucking around for them and mainly meant to divide the majority of non rich folks.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Reminder: The republicans have a majority right now and have for the majority of the last decade (2 decades?). They can fire trump at any point and remove this cancer on our country.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Why would they fire a president who is fulfilling their legislative demands?