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[–] daddycool@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Younger generations are ignoring it as well. They're busy blaming past generations, while they themselves are some of the biggest contributors to our current climate crisis.

[–] wischi@programming.dev 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

So bezos and his guests flying dozens of individual private jets to Venice are the "younger generations"? It doesn't have a lot to do with age but seems to correlate with wealth. The wealthier you are (as a nation and an individual) the more you typically (on average) contribute to climate change.

[–] daddycool@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

So bezos and his guests flying dozens of individual private jets to Venice are the “younger generations”?

As wasteful as that may seem, it's doesn't make much of a difference in the bigger picture. What does make a big impact is using all the services Bezos is providing. And not just his. Every cloud service uses an insane amount of energy. Youtube, TikTok, streaming services, online games, iCloud, Dropbox, video calls, crypto valuta, A.I. They can't build data centers fast enough to supply the demand.

[–] deaf_fish@midwest.social 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They are not ignoring it, you silly Billy. They are treating it like everyone else is.

[–] daddycool@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

They are the some of the biggest consumers of electronics and technology. What do you think powers that. Fairy dust?

[–] deaf_fish@midwest.social 1 points 2 hours ago

Two things.

  1. Your original statement was that they were ignoring it, not that they were contributing to it. They are definitely not ignoring it. They have less ability to ignore it that any previous generation.

  2. Their consumption of electronics is the result of how they were brought up. Not that they have some kind of suicidal death wish. If you were in their generation you would be doing the same thing. As would I.

[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

My parents believe we’re in the end times and god will return any day now. They were mentally ill from the get go. They are pure evil and don’t see the evil they are.

Go figure they’re also extremely obese and mostly immobile. They are sloths and glutens. They never took care of themselves and believe bullshit snake oil salesmen over their own children’s advice.

You can’t reason with the evil that is these fundamental cultists.

[–] wischi@programming.dev 2 points 8 hours ago

We might very well be in the end times and maybe AI will wipe us from the planet to prevent earth from becoming Venus.

[–] Dohnuthut@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

This is my boomer dad whenever he complains about it being extremely hot in the summer, cold in the winter, too much rain, etc. Always responds well it won't last too long and that's just nature, nothing we can do about it because it has a mind of its own.

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And people think I'm crazy for starting an algae farm... There is no quick fix. "Science will figure something out"

I am part of that science, and I can barely afford to scale beyond what I consider my carbon footprint.

narcimalgae on YouTube, although the algorithm killed it (500 to 6 views on my last video)so I may move to peertube soon.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can you give a quick elevator pitch for algae farms?

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Water holds 8 times the gasous CO2 as the atmosphere it is exposed to at a given pressure(altitude). The algae, being carbon-based, pulls the carbon from the water to grow, and releases the oxygen as a biproduct. The algae biomass can then be condensed and stored, or used as a raw agriculture material. Water, sunlight, and a small amount of fertilizer all fed by an air pump.

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 13 points 1 day ago

Phew, looks like the industrial revolution just saved us from falling below the safe climate zone! /s

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 day ago

You dont understand. The poor billionairs need their money nowwww!

[–] Pokey@midwest.social 10 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I was just thinking about the poor air quality today and yesterday here in the Midwest, and then I see this. I want to be hopeful we can change this in my lifetime, but I am also not optimistic.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago

Depends how old you are. I'm 47. It's gonna far worse. The question is will my kids be the ones to say it's bad enough? I don't know. Maybe theirs.

Also it's hilariously optimistic that this chart only thinks a 4 degree rise by 2100. Seems very conservative.

Personally speaking I'm investigating moving my family further north here in Canada to get ahead of the madness to come.

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[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

And what were they supposed to do other than go out and vote in their own best interest?

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

In retrospect they'll probably feel violence was justified. How many time machine scenarios will amount to ecoterrorism in the same way that we imagine we'd kill Hitler today

[–] toxic_cloud@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Considering they failed at that too not much.

[–] Tiger_Man_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 69 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (18 children)

The scary thing is, this graph is probably far too conservative.

Evidence is now emerging that indicates that warming has accelerated dramatically in the last 2-3 years. As in, we may see more warming in the next 10 years than we have seen in the last 50, with +3℃ happening just after 2035, and +4℃ happening by some time around 2040 to 2050.

You know what happens around +4℃? The extinction of all megafauna - animals larger than 45kg. Like humans. The entire ⅓ of the planet between the Tropic of Cancer and the Tropic of Capricorn will experience lethally high wet bulb temperatures across all regions for at least several weeks out of every year, rendering it permanently uninhabitable for the 4+ Billion people that currently live there. India is currently flirting with that reality.

And with that heating inertia, 2100 may see +8℃ temps, which essentially means ice-free poles year round (once things calm down), with palm trees and alligators at the North Pole. Of course, by that time chaotic weather and resource exhaustion will have killed off all remaining humans.

And the lovely thing about “moving parts” is that they all have this little thing called inertia… the faster they move, the further they go. And +8℃ is very close to the +12-15℃ that a Venus Scenario would be triggered by.

Past warming events have been “similar” in that they have gotten just as warm, but they took hundreds of thousands of years to get to the same place, allowing entire continent-wide ecosystems to quite literally migrate across thousands of kilometers to adapt. Our changes are happening in less than 0.01% of that time scale, giving ecosystems no time at all in which to react. So our biosphere will get slaughtered along with us, and will be unable to compensate in time.

And with the biosphere becoming overwhelmed by rapid changes, there goes the “friction” that could do something about that “inertia”.

And the worst part is, we still haven’t moved off of the worst-case-possible “business as usual” path. We are swan-diving into the worst possible future. Thanks to billionaires addicted to fat profit margins and who control all of the processes, we are utterly failing to generate the change needed to save ourselves, with CO2e production - purely human sources, excluding the feedback loops in nature!! - CONTINUING TO ACCELERATE.

Fun times. I just might live long enough to see humanity go extinct.

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[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 260 points 2 days ago (16 children)

Not to be that person, but my parents are completely incapable of comprehending this.

Not intellectually, but pragmatically and philosophically. They're like 60 years old, and even if it affects them in their lifetime, they'll be "dead in 20 years".

And on a low level, they're kind of right because most ordinary people aren't to blame for this, so shaming "parents" makes no sense.

Shame the international petroleum conglomerates, plastic producers, shipping, etc. You know, the actual emitters in the billions of gigatons.

[–] denial@feddit.org 191 points 2 days ago (29 children)

A lot of ordinary people voted for politicians that promised them cheap gas and cost of living, instead of the ones wanting to build a sustainable future.

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[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Fortunately for them, I flushed my kids.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

AI is going to fix this by increasing the scale of the Y axis.

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[–] REDACTED 7 points 1 day ago

Just like with debt, we can just raise the ceiling and the problem is fixed

[–] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Did they ignore it? Yes but the only reason they ignored it was because...

  1. The oil industry (and other adjacent industries) did their best to make sure everybody doubted the science of climate change

  2. Governments (the U.S gov't in particular) took the oil industry's side and subsidized their ventures

  3. Libertarian think tanks (like the Heritage Foundation and ALEC) took money from Big Oil to misinform the public about climate change and its connection to fossil fuel burning.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No,No, not continue as normal, actively contributing to and profiting of. And engaging in generational bickering; In fact telling kids (!) Yes! kids! That.. (checks notes)..they have autism (??) in response to them screaming att the old farts to do something. As if that was not enough, a guy painted his skin orange and spent his power on destroying climate research data. On actually hunting it down in Arctic stations to delete it.

The wealth that was "generated" was systematically funneled into symbols to a handful of senile males that never spent a penny, but for sometimes when they brunt a chunk of the gold on making sure every adult continues to bicker with their kids and continually actively release kilotons of carbon into the stratosphere as a "ritual".

Because even though we had clean propulsion and energy available, the insane carousel of madness could stop if we didn't ride the ton metal beasts every day and it's not far then before people realize that the wealth and power is all just symbolic. All just a number in a computer on Panama. An unphantomable number, to be sure, oh it is very, very unphantomable, but as a legacy goes, the new names for big numbers we had to invent -- it wasn't even that good? A googol of gold? Is that supposed to be a joke? Is really it so funny? Is calling one of the megacorporations "googlog" like.. a meme to them? Is this their "doge"? It's so dry, but it fits.. That they might just.. Find it funny to say. Guess it tends to happen with made up currency.

The worldslacht though, isn't even profitable any more in the symbolic sense. They have to pay for oil rigs, astroturfing, oil rigs, war, class war, culture war, media entertainment, fracking rigs, haulers, astroturfing, oil spills, new huge boats with a pool, art to write off tax with, and really it's all ending in a whimper as the entire golden age we should have had was swallowed by their immense greed. Movies are about oil and cars. Wars are about cars. Some culture wants to live in a house? No, your land is now a parking. Huge spaces, just a place where we store our ton metal beasts that chug benzenes and scream at the sky to move us walking distance. They have to be placed in a painted rectangle on a flat surface and we have a most important war over who has what painted square.

If you think we respect our metal beasts then no, we crush the ton metal beasts and build new ones constantly so we can have a little war over who has the newest and hottest model. It is said that person gets to mate more often. But I truly wonder what mates were gained this way.

It is cool to have larger vehicles, but only up to a specific point, if you share your ride then it is no longer a mating ritual. If you ride too many, you are instead redicculed. "Don't you have your own ton metal beast?" No, to really stand out with feathers cocked, you have to ride your metal beast alone. One person per beast. If you really need a mate to nest with get a really heavy or fast or flying metal beast, and use it to go alone. It signals status. Fuckability.

That you have your own several ton metal beast roaring, yes sometimes actually emptying the carbon in the sky directly when exploding the oil it apparently requires to propel tonnes of metal.. for one single guy (and sometimes a mate or two). This is the dream. This is true freedom. To spend incredible amounts to move several tons of metal, just to transport one guy a little more comfortably than if they went on a rail. Did I mention, by the way, that yes we actually had already invented rails. It just didn't make its way to America yet. It's... (checks notes again) ..too expensive.

Well they will all be dead soon, leaving only the kids with the aftermath of what seems like a party, but actually was only a mess that sincerely wasn't worth it as the profits of all work just sit there, completely unused potential to at least do something they would want with it. I mean something fun and stupid while they have the opportunity to actually do anything with the whole world as their playground. But like a child that does not want to share, its only purpose is to point out how much better than everyone else these senile few was.

And yeah that was a feverish century everyone else seemingly worshipped and adored these elite.. except the kids. And they were rediculed because they were autistic and adhd and all other institutional psychological distress, but of course never heard for their very clear "how dare you, shitheads?". The darned kids. But the legacy of the elite that forced the world to toil for oil will truly go down in history as utter tools. It is just sad that they mauled the planet into a death spiral that seems to end our species. It was kind of a childish thing to do, ironically.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey man, can I get a couple Adderall?

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 10 hours ago

Good sleep does this to me, amphetamines calm me down

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 118 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

Your parents ignored this

I've been hearing about climate change consistently since the 1980s. Multiple iterations of liberal (and moderate conservative) politician have campaigned on a variety of (free market) mechanisms for capping or curbing carbon emissions. We even had a huge surge in R&D for green energy alternatives and electrification - first in the 70s and then again during the gas cost explosion of the 00s - that is (thank fucking god) finally paying off.

So I won't say they "ignored this". I will say that we had a very wealthy, very influential minority entrenched within the political class that profited enormously from fossil fuel extraction and deliberately suppressed decades of prior efforts to reduce emissions, both domestically and globally.

The Boomers weren't blind to climate change. They weren't even apathetic. They were outmatched, outplayed, and outspent. Much like with slavery in the 1800s and women's liberation in the 1900s and human rights in the 2000s, this is a fight that liberals have spent a lot of time losing. What wins they achieved felt significant in the moment, but remained dwarfed by the stubborn intractability of their wealthy, reactionary opposition.

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