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The well-dweller makes a valid point. I use linux mint btw
Now we know why they got tariffβd
Really tired of "Linux user sucks" joke. We all know some obnoxious people exist and are annoying but they are small minority confined to their own space.
On the other side, everyday I see Linux people working on their free time or for little to no pay on accessibility issues, bettering software for everyone (including windows users). I also see community members doing their best to answer, document and work with newcomer to fix their issues. I see developers burning out because they received another report insulting their work because a feature doesn't work exactly like windows, etc...
Maybe I'm reading too much into this, sorry if that's the case.
Yeah I was going to say something similar... I've only been in Linux for maybe 2 years or so, but my experience interacting with people has been nothing but positive. Everyone is very helpful.
We all know some obnoxious people exist and are annoying but they are small minority confined to their own space.
But why did that space have to be lemmy?
I think the people who want free and opensource social media overlap with people wanting a free and opensource OS. But I donβt think everyone here uses linux and I donβt think most people that do are obnoxious.
I am though.
Windows isnt built for you its built for me, a Systems Admin.
It is so easy to get all my corporate logging and compliance software onto that thing. Its objectively spyware but the feds and the insurance companies said to do it so I do.
Oh and copilot, by the gods, its so nice to give Microsoft full access to all my emails, teams messages, and notes so it can so quickly answer questions for me on everything. Only works if it's ya know spying on you and you're spending hundreds a year to use it. But it is great.
Canβt we agree on both? I donβt want microsoft to spy on me and I would like people to switch to linux.
Also, i can't do shit about microsoft. It's only gonna keep getting worse.
I cannot make them not suck. An update will undo anything i do to liberate your machine.
Literally the only solutions i have for 'ms please don't spy' are 'air gap' and 'linux'.
The thing is this: The safer Microsoft can be that Windows is the only thinkable OS for their users, the less risk there is when integrating Anti-User features.
To its users it is therefore important to know about alternatives. If you make Microsoft scared that users change OS, the product Windows will become better.
This is true even if you don't change your OS.
"I want my partner to stop beating me daily, but I don't want to leave them"
They keep beating you as long as it's profitable for them - and you keep it profitable
First of all, has your own experience with Windows been so traumatic that you actually feel it's proper to compare it to spousal abuse of all goddamn things?
Secondly, using emotionally manipulative false equivalences like that do nothing to further the argument, it just shuts it down by spreading feelings of guilt in the other partly.
Thirdly, people are allowed to ask for more privacy without evangelists like you crawling out of the woodwork to guilt-trip them into making a change they may not be ready for.
First of all, has your own experience with Windows been so traumatic that you actually feel it's proper to compare it to spousal abuse of all goddamn things?
Secondly, using emotionally manipulative false equivalences like that do nothing to further the argument, it just shuts it down by spreading feelings of guilt in the other partly.
Might not have been the best comparison as another commenter mentioned
Thirdly, people are allowed to ask for more privacy without evangelists like you crawling out of the woodwork to guilt-trip them into making a change they may not be ready for.
Sure, you can ask but you're asking hammer to stop being a hammer. Modern Windows is not built to be private, but the opposite of it, it's a marketing platform.
It's a little much to compare it to spousal abuse, but it's honestly not far from the truth. As for asking for more privacy, you're absolutely well within your right to ask for it, but it's well within Microsoft's right to say "fuck you I'll spy as much as I want because you agreed to be spied upon when you agreed to our EULA that you probably didn't actually read".
Microsoft windows is an advertising platform now and nothing more. Windows as a home operating system is a drop in the bucket for Microsoft, they want you spending money on subscriptions for O365, Xbox gamepass, and Azure Cloud. They want enterprise SQL licensing and azure cloud licensing, they couldn't give fuck all about some butthurt dudebro who plays call of duty, they want copilot subscribers and to be the driving force behind LLMs and AI not Meta or OpenAI. Your privacy is the last thing Microsoft will ever care about, and if you don't take the initiative and stop using that piece of shit intrusive OS, then idk what to tell you.
You (and the upvoters) thought that this was a clever statement. But it actually was not. It was very disrespectful.
Victims of abuse most often can't "just leave". It's not always that simple. It just appears simple to people far outside of abuse, having neither experienced nor witnessed it. Or, the rare case, are victims of survivorship bias, because they were in the miniscule percentage of people successfully leaving abusive enviromnente AND be smug about it afterwards. As someone working with abuse victims, it's really never a "then just leave!"
Fair enough, could have used better comparison
Wasn't meant condescending or anything. You didn't mean harm. It's just that victims, who hear this attitude a lot (because it seems so bloody obviously easy), might be pissed. Same like "why are you even homeless? Just buy a house, doh!"
Yeah no offense taken. You explained well why there was a problem and it's always a good thing
I am going to take the bet.
The thing is : microsoft won't stop spying, collecting data is a nice business, and also most people don't need windows:
Finally, posting this on the fediverse is a bit ironic : why would you go on a small userbase social network when you can just go on facebook, X, bluesky or reddit ?
I personally prefer Krita to Gimp, otherwise my real issues with Linux being:
Wayland is not up to the task
Curious about this one, as I haven't had any issues with Wayland whatsoever, and have been using it for like two years on a few different distros...
I've never encountered anyone screaming at me for not using (insert FOSS software here). The most I've seen is just suggestions to try an alternative. And it's usually pretty polite
Just my experience though
Bitwig has a Linux version. It's proprietary and paid, but it's very nice to use and comes with a ton of devices.
So does Reaper.
Those tribal linux-neckbeards need this to feel superior. Who cares for their opinion?
I use both as tools for the job at hand. One always fits better than the other. It's not a cult, it's an OS