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You know what: Microsoft became miserably incompetent in IT (mikekaganski.wordpress.com)
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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Became? Became?

Google became miserably incompetent in IT

Microsoft ALWAYS has been miserably incompetent in IT.

This is nothing new. All Microsoft products always have sucked balls in comparison with other products and those few that at the surface level looked reasonably nice (say, windows 95) still sucked baaaadly when anyone bothered to look any deeper

The only reason why Microsoft got so big is due to great marketing and a lot lot loooooot of lies and sabotaging of competition

Fuck. Everything. About. Microsoft.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

The fact that Microsoft is a surviving company is insane. They have always had a bad product and worse support. But they had US government support so of course they became the world standard. It's never been about the "best" making it to the top.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 37 points 2 days ago

This is what happens when companies become too big to care about their users and customers. Can't log in? Your problem, not mine.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sometimes we should just let things die. 🤷‍♀️

[–] NaibofTabr 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So yes but... there are still no good alternatives to Active Directory in the context of managing IT for an organization with 10,000+ users, thousands of endpoints, and millions of files which need to maintain proper association with individual user accounts and be delivered to specific endpoints on demand.

Google Workspace is the most feature-rich competitor, but it is a pale shadow of the level of IT infrastructure that Microsoft's ecosystem provides.

For Microsoft to fade away, someone needs to build a competing large-scale IT management system that provides the same kind of functionality that Active Directory does.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

AD managed with PowerShell is the bomb. As sole IT person, I deployed it at a company with only 35 users, made my life so easy. I had scripts that would handle 90% of the on and offboarding work, even outside the MS environment.

Next company used Google for auth and it was a damned nightmare to manage user on and off boarding. We had zero device management of any sort.

[–] NaibofTabr 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I think people who have never used AD don't really understand - there is no equivalent for a busy sysadmin. There's no open source alternative that has the same functionality - I've looked. You might be able to cobble together a similar level of capability with 5 or 6 different applications, but good luck getting them to all play nice with each other and remain stable enough for an organization with hundreds of users.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Nah. Anything but AD is a clusterfuck.

[–] joshcodes@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Okta. We're looking at replacing AD with it.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

I've also looked at jumpcloud and a few other IDPs with device management too. But okta is such a pain and expensive. They've tried to burn me on their other products

[–] NaibofTabr 3 points 2 days ago

Ah, but OKTA only provides authentication?

How does that replace the infrastructure management?

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

I must have missed the point where Okta has a joinable directory service with an extendable schema and GPO like functionality too.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

A meme showing a poorly 3D modelled mouse with a crown, from the series Ratboy Genius. At the bottom it says "there are many things that need to be erased".

The world would be better if Microsoft was gone.

[–] eRac@lemmings.world 3 points 2 days ago

Upvote because song

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Had this EXACT problem trying to fix our old Microsoft business account at my last job. Last guy ran off with the creds, wouldn't answer his phone for 2FA.

Poked at it on and off for a couple of years, finally spent a full 8-hour day banging on it. Fail. Boss: "Yeah, didn't think that would work."

Y'all I am tenacious when you tell me I can't do an IT thing, won't give up. Microsoft left me a broken man.

[–] fistac0rpse@fedia.io 12 points 2 days ago

"became"

[–] DarkSurferZA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/29/satya-nadella-says-as-much-as-30percent-of-microsoft-code-is-written-by-ai.html?itid=lk_inline_enhanced-template

I can tell this is the 1 time Satya Nadella isn't overstating the use of AI at Microsoft

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm also pretty sure he's lying his ass off as AI isn't capable of writing code for larger projects because lawyers project have so many factors and contexts that come looking around the corner that AI simply can't account for. Yet.

Who knows, maybe one day AI will really learn how to code and when that day arrives, we'll all be doomed

[–] DarkSurferZA@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

You're right, AI can't write code, but it will hallucinate its way through writing code. Hence the reason I believe him. The quality of Microsoft code recently is dog shit

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Bless his heart, he still thinks this is an accident.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

My LinkedIn account (the stupid feifdom I need access to for job searching in my ridiculous field, you know?) locked me out for a similar reason (crime: using Firefox and a VPN to access M$ protected and owned data!)

There is no appeal process. No contact info. No way to even ask for help. Just... Hey sorry you did a thing or whatever, your account has been permanently locked.

I've fully divested from MS except for work devices provided by my employer. I won't use any MS products again, I've been putting up with degrees of this for years but in the last year MS has fully fallen off a cliff in terms of customer concern.