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[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Can she just fuck off please.

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Isn’t that what she is doing?

[–] TheGoldenV@lemmy.org 2 points 21 hours ago

With extra steps

[–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Where were you guys when I made a post critical of her during her campaign? I got downvoted to hell and got called a Russian spy/bot. Maybe the libs are quietly staying away from this thread and it makes the lefties more prominent.

[–] kebab@endlesstalk.org 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You have created your account 7 days ago. You were not there during her campaign

[–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 1 points 17 hours ago

It was on a different account, buddy

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Just a few months ago she couldnt think of a single thing she would change from Bidens policies, even though those policies were polling in the 30s. Everything was so swell she couldnt think of any changes needed. Now everything is so broken so she wont stay in politics at all, but might run for president in 2028.

Thats dem leadership in a nutshell. No interest in the day to day. She learned nothing at all from her abysmal campaign.

[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world -1 points 21 hours ago

Maybe if she danced more? Less? Fewer?

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 75 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can we get a fucking primary this time

[–] atticus88th@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The DNC will allow a primary but will find ways to fuck around with Iowa voters and Dem Debates. Oh and if there is a clear popular winner they will ignore them because democracy is a joke to the democrats.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's been going great for them so far, why fuck with the playbook?

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah at this point they only have to be slightly better than the Fascist party to have a chance with half the voters.

Good cop bad cop type of democracy. That's what FPTP creates.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Primary. We don't need losing candidates coming back to lose again.

But I'm not holding my breath for the Dems to actually hold a fair primary. Progressives need a new party.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe her and Hillary should run together….

That would be a winning combo for sure.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 days ago

Do you think Ghislaine would run as the first woman president?

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 52 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm not interested in anyone, unless they're speaking out against the regime now. She's not, so she can just step back.

[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not voting for anyone not promising retribution on this regime and its supporters. If that means we lose again so be it - apparently we need to hit rock bottom to fix (rather than band-aid) this problem.

[–] Screamium@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We know damn well there will not be free and fair elections anymore, so anyone "promising retribution" is committing political suicide. There will be no perfect candidate.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Well it’s probably a calculated risk to stay quiet. Dems gain nothing by focusing attention on her right now. On the other hand, letting the republicans make asses of themselves and swooping in offering a solution to their mess just before an election would fare better.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Please, no. I respect that Harris had an uphill battle in 2024, and that Biden handed her an absolute shit show of a campaign to clean up; and it's a miracle the election was actually as close as it was... but please, no. Harris ran away after the election and stayed absent for 7 months while the US turned to fucking shit.

we need fighters., Not fairweather bandwagoneers. Sorry.

[–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

She was a bad candidate to start with and the abbreviated campaign had little to do with it. She couldn't even handle the few assignments the Biden cabinet gave her, so they had to keep her in the dark.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

That’s just another way Biden fucked her over.

Remember all the promises to develop leadership in the DNC during the 2020 campaign? The whole one term stuff? (that while Biden never explicitly said personal was the message going out by his campaign staff.)

Harris was supposed to be the next, and he absolutely didn’t give her the support to do anything.

Biden got his foot in the door then went out of his way to silence any other possible successor and when it finally became clear to him he fucked every thing up; he fucked off to fuckerville.

At that point we needed a candidate to start running pretty much that day. Settling on any other candidate would have taken time we did not have.

[–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 1 points 16 hours ago

I just realized I've been debating you in two different threads.

[–] yonderbarn@lazysoci.al 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

That’s just another way Biden fucked her over.

No, she fucked herself over.

Exhibit A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXCN0xYJDuo

On top of that, how the fuck do you campaign on border security when dems were appalled by the treatment of migrants there? Her whole decision to attract the right by being strong on borders made no sense at all.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There is about a 0% chance of Kamala being the next candidate for President on the Democratic side.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Running terrible, unpopular candidates is kind of their whole schtick though. So it might well happen.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

While vehemently opposing popular candidates.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's a 0% chance of her winning, but definitely a non-zero chance of her being the dem's candidate.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'll bet 100 bucks on 100 to 1 odds today that harris will not be the winner of the next election. So if you take the bet and I win, you owe me 1 dollar. If Harris wins I owe you 100 dollars. Who wants a piece of this action?

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Jfc please don't. Learn from your mistakes Democrats, you fuckin cowards in hiding. Democrats are tried of the aging group that is not taking to normal citizens. They are so full up their asses that they haven't realized they have also become the problem. The Democrats are at a 34% approval rate.

Let the new bloods in and take the lead on this already.

[–] HeisenbergsName@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"We hear you. We see you. Here's Liz Cheney as our middle of the road candidate. And her VP? Joe Biden"

Now that I typed this out, there's a non-zero percent chance it could come to fruition. Sorry

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nah, they're lining up behind Gavin Newsom because it's "his turn". These people are so clueless

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

Calling it now: Hillary is gonna try again.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Bernie and AOC had better get an Independent ticket together if Harris thinks she's going to get into the race again. Fuck that.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

they will need their own party. Lets calls it the "dont call it genocide, No to BDS, and keep the defensive weapons flowing" party-- or the dcig.ntb.aktdwf, or "zionist-lite" party

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Bernie will be fucking 90. Its not going to happen and would kill him if it did.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Jasmine Crocket might be an interesting second to AOC, there's others, too. make the primary ranked choice; get rid of the super delegates, and force states to run an actual primary; with every state ran on the same day. Sorry, Iowa, but you fucked too many primaries to be considered useful.

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

CA needs someone that is going to do something drastic against investors owning homes.

https://www.sfgate.com/realestate/article/investors-majority-homes-some-calif-counties-20780941.php

I don’t see Harris being proactive in any subject because she’s not a natural leader. She’s more suited to law enforcement.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

CA needs someone that is going to do something drastic against investors owning homes.

2000% increase in property taxes, but owner-occupants are exempted. Only investors pay the tax.

And, any year the owner occupancy rate is less than 90%, the investor tax is increased another 20%.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"She's not the worst choice -- Harris 2028"

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

It's true, she wasn't. And yet ... 😑

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago
[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Why? We already know it's Trump 2028

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

Close the door! You're letting the air out!