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The intrigue: The "Rule of Five" law allows any five members of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee to request federal agencies to provide information about "any matter within the jurisdiction of the committee."

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[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Someone posted this up on here a couple of weeks ago. I'll do my part to repost it:

From reddit… https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/s/eBjDX0zt07

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80

Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac

—————————other Epstein Information

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson/_TrumpEpstein/_Calif/_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.

Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's weird that the Senate had a special centuries old rule requiring everyone produce at least once piece of child pornography before a vote can continue, but I guess the 1830s was just a different time.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 204 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Going nowhere in 3... 2...

Schumer said the files could be released with redactions because keeping the information of the victims private "must be of top importance."

Sure, keep the victims private, but don't give them free license to redact shit.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 95 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The list is released with all names redacted. Because the right would consider anyone on the list as a victim, even those who committed crimes.

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This is obviously the answer to why the victim count went up and the perpetrator count went down to 2, soon to be 1. They're interpreting Trump as a victim and trying to figure out how to argue that he is a victim, but Clinton isn't to throw meat to the wolves.

There are not 1000s of women at a brothel, but there may be 1000s of johns.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And Democrats will fall for it again. They'll go after Clinton, because that is the high road. Everyone on the list needs to be brought to whatever justice is due.

Just like the Panama papers... sigh.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

There's actually been a guy to go to prison over the Panama Papers. Sorry, he went to jail over paying to have a journalist murdered.

They still haven't had the trial yet, but the jackass spent 6 years in jail before they granted him bail.

His henchmen in the murder are all some form of sentence with one of them having turned state's witness.

The coverup is often worse than the crime. I say often because Trump is try to cover up an extremely serious crime. Or rather a bunch of them.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Ding ding ding. Nixon tapes pt 2 pedophile boogaloo

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[–] Lexam@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Good news they'll just use black highlight instead of actually redacting anything.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Seeing at how incompetent DOGE was. This is totally plausible.

[–] Rekhyt@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 2 days ago

Trumpie truly does surround himself with the best.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

Honestly, I’m imagining a ridiculous scenario where the victims get protection and their names are accidentally outed in the Epstein files. Imagine all the Trumpers going off to threaten these victims and being shot dead for it. Solves so many problems all at once.

Sigh.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

No fucking way

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

What's the plan if the files contain damming evidence against Trump? Will he be impeached? Will he be arrested like anybody else? Will there just be no consequences whatsoever? What is the protocol when the president is revealed to have committed heinous crimes? I want to know NOW!

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Oh yea, he will definitely be impeached for the third time. One more impeachment and he'll get a Writ of Reprimand. 4 of those and a Supreme Court judge literally slaps him on the wrist. That'll show him.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Will they slap him with this?

[–] turdburglar@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

no, those were recalled for slicing up people’s wrists

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

If someone slapped me with that I'd prefer it sliced my wrists. I don't want to live knowing I've worn one.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's what happens when more than 33 senators are willing to stand by the president no matter what they do I suppose. When it came to honor/shame, no one ever thought someone so wretched wouldn't just be forcibly removed by the people around them.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

33 lmao, judging by the senate confirmation votes, there's at least 50.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

33+ is the requirement to not be removed when impeached. At that point we can basically stop counting

57 voted he was guilty on the last one (the insurrection)

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Well once it really gets proven he is a pedo, which we're pretty close to, his own base will likely eat him alive and, I dunno, split off into factions?

What will happen?

Anywhere from nothing to full out civil war, pushed mostly by ~~the crazies~~ MAGA.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

one possibility is people who have been ensconced in MAGA, entirely because they think every Democrat eats babies, will have their reality shattered by the completely obvious and well documented fact that Trump is a pedophile, and not even just A pedophile but THE pedophile, the final boss of 1990s human trafficking and serial rape.

[–] zaphodb2002@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't have much faith they'll care. A big part of their ideology is hurting women and children. It's already well known he's a rapist, he's said as much himself. They famously don't care about truth. I think absolutely damning evidence will come out, and they'll move forward without much fuss.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

This. They'll scramble for a few days until Fox News gets the narrative ready for spoon-feeding, then calling him a pedophile will be dismissed as another facet of "orange man bad".

[–] Devmapall@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

Anecdotally I have seen evidence of Trump supporters in my own life who have fallen off their love of him. Mostly though it's because their own lives have not improved. They aren't hardcore magas just people who don't know any better, are not smart, kind of racist, or just sucked into whatever rabbit hole they've found.

I doubt it'll change much what's presented in media and functionally who's voting for him/others like him. But it's been nice not to hear people praise him day to day in my own life.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

people who have been ensconced in MAGA, entirely because they think every Democrat eats babies, will have their reality shattered

Hard to have your reality shattered when you weren't living in reality to begin with.

You've got a clutch of hooting, screaming podcaster apes who have been flogging Epstein as the Rosetta Stone of a dozen different conspiracy theories. They were supposed to dine out on Pam Bondi dripping "Breaking! New Epstein Things! Rosie O'Donald and Greta Thunberg definitely in the same state as Jeffrey during peak pedophilia era!"

Instead, Trump just puts the kabosh on the whole thing, barely a month after Bondi teases a whole string of info dumps.

If you can jangle a different set of keys in their faces, they'll come back around. Trump's just not willing to do that because he's gone into his "bored of being President" phase.

[–] askryan@startrek.website 6 points 2 days ago

They would 100% never let files with Trump's name in it out. This is going to absolutely backfire on the Democrats when the Republicans inevitably release a doctored list with all their political enemies on it. This is so much better for the Dems when the files are a big MacGuffin. Even if by some miracle they did release the actual list and Trump was on it, they would say it was a witch hunt by the corrupt Biden administration and MAGA would eat it up. There will never be legal consequences for any of them, ever. If they ever do get consequences it will be because of some brave Luigi.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Well, if 20 Republicans crossed the aisle he could be removed from office. I think more likely is we'll be seeing lots of GOP seats lost in the midterm elections.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (5 children)

if 20 Republicans crossed the aisle he could be removed from office.

I would sooner bank on 20 Dems leaping to his defense in the name of bipartisanship

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[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

An immediate admission of an active alien invasion and the activation of the new patriot II act.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Any day now...

Anyyyyyy daayyyyyyy

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago (6 children)

How can Republicans block this...?

[–] VivianRixia@piefed.social 84 points 3 days ago

By continuing to not follow the law or process as it benefits them like they have been. But good on Dems for the constant pressure. That's exactly what they need to do.

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

They don't have to block shit. They can just ignore it.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fall back on the sovcit playbook: claim that it's outside their jurisdiction and stall for time until they come up with another excuse to protect toddler-tupper Trump.

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[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

I mean, if it's not blocked, who's going to force them to release?

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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Dude, now do UAP.

(By the way, I’m basically quoting Chuck here. He said the same in a tweet earlier this year. Fucking ineffectual clown.)

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[–] NotForYourStereo@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Weird how they want it released now, but didn't do shit about it under Biden...

Almost like it's all theatrics for them.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago

The finance committee requested the files, got them, wrote up subpoenas based on those files and were blocked by republiQans.

All under Biden. Still ready to go, just get the GQP to do anything at all.

[–] AZX3RIC@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Too little was done out of fear Trump would capitalize on it.

And look how that turned out.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It will never get released. The Democrats get to act like they want to release it while the Republicans are blocking it now. This is very bad theater.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can imagine it like a scene in a sitcom. They are both yanking on the documents in a tug of war in front of an audience of citizens. Only for someone to slip and the documents fly into the air and rain down on the citizens by accident, fucking them both over.

We can only hope.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Agreed. What would make that sitcom even better is if it ended with a surprise guillotine

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