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18 countries apply for EU billions as Europe seeks to provide for its own security without the US (apnews.com)
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[โ€“] stoy@lemmy.zip 25 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I love this, Trump threw a hissy fit, and now the US MIC looses out on billions every year, and as Europes arms industry grows stronger, the US will see rising costs of their own arms, while European equipment will become cheaper.

[โ€“] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

And the money spent on weapons inside the EU stays in the EU which boosts our economy.

[โ€“] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As a Canadian I look forward to hopefully being the recipient of well built EU armament, and not some shitty U.S. planes that continually fail and have remote disable buttons.

[โ€“] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

I hope we supply the EU some of our quality armaments, while receiving theirs in equal measure.

[โ€“] pirateKaiser@sh.itjust.works -4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Sure, let's stick it to the US because they are imperialist capitalist assholes and elected a Cheeto fart (twice).

What do we get in return though? An enormous pile of debt, which will inevitably go towards increasing inequality like these things tend to do. Militarised Europe with a toothless corrupt government and disjointed member states. Worsening relations with the most war hungry nations in the world. Brilliant!

I'm not saying it's the wrong move but I find it hard to love any of it. We're talking about wars, international tension, instability and unpredictability.

[โ€“] stoy@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

What we get instead is increased influence and increased independence.

[โ€“] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

All of geopolitics is hard to love arguably. But here we are, condoning it, because it's happening, whether we like it or not, and it would be nice to have a say in it.

[โ€“] pirateKaiser@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Yes, I get it, both your and @stoy 's response. It's why I say I don't think it's the wrong move considering. it just feels like the world is moving backwards. I grew up in a mostly demilitarised, increasingly inclusive Europe, naively believing we're moving past all that crap. Yes, it seems I wasn't a very bright child.

[โ€“] IncogCyberspaceUser@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

That left jet looks crazy with all those wings. I thought it was genAI at first, but it's a Spanish Air Force Eurofighter Typhoon?
Edit: I just realized that there is another jet below it, making it look like that...

[โ€“] lysol@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Haha me too! Was 100% thinking AI until I realized it was two jets.