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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Meanwhile, Democrats like Pete Buttigieg: “It’s not what he says, it’s just how he says it.”

[–] Saint_La_Croix_Crosse@midwest.social 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This has really been the obvious problem with the Democrats and their voice-pieces. "We just need a liberal Joe Rogan" or "We just need to get as good at messaging as Mamdani". All of the Democratic consultants and proponents think that what you believe or stand for doesn't matter, as long as you focus group the exact phrasing or pitch right or find a more convincing mouthpiece.

Maybe the problem is that the Democrats believe in nothing, will fight for nothing, nor want to accomplish anything. They just think that they can be vacuous empty suites and as long as they can accurately focus group their phrasing they will be able to win. And actually having beliefs and principles hurt you, because maybe not 100% of people would agree with them.

[–] TopsickPilgrim@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Buttigieg's attack on Mamdani makes his own tone and messaging, and stories about his home life seem entirely manipulative. Like a Freudian slip admitting his own tactics, when reflecting against someone who has been clear and open about their political and ethical views.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

not him, literally the entire democratic party. they are desperate to believe that it's not socialist policies. they're the best at taking the wrong (ie convenient) lesson every time.

the democratic party establishment is a bunch of rich fucks who never interact with real people, take AIPAC money in the hundreds of thousands if not millions, and engage in shady stock exchange to boot.

It really feels as if they think of their entire base as morons when they keep repeating this

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This made Palestinian rights the third-most important reason to back Mamdani among those who voted for him, only ranking behind his proposals to lower costs for everyday Americans and to tax the wealthy and take on corporations.

As important as the Palestinian genocide issue is, I'm glad the tax the wealthy reason is up there too.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Funny how the third reason is the one that makes the headline. 🤔

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Funny how it's the only one that makes the headline, but only just now, when Obama announced he agrees.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I never thought running a campaign on issues that people care about would make them popular.

Like ffs how out of touch are these people?

[–] Agrajag@scribe.disroot.org 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think they just plugged their ears and decided as a group that infact no one cared about this, you can be as delusional as you want if you only look at bad polling.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

We've been saying this since 2023. By December it was clear what Israel was doing. The base was never going to have it.

Keep in mind that basically all elected Democrats are still supporting Israel. Consider what impact this is going to have in mid terms.

Asking voters to support a genocide; not giving another option in 2024, will go down as one of the greatest and most disastrous acts of political malpractice in history.

And if you defended the candidates position on genocide or tried to badger voters instead of moving the candidate, not only were you an apologist for genocide: you contributed to Donald Trump's victory.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

establishment Democrats scratch their heads

Maybe there's a lesson to be learned here in time for the next big elections, right? Right?!

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 days ago (3 children)

idk man the neoliberal consultants are telling me otherwise, who’s to know?

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah. *sigh* Who am I kidding.

Lobbyism is the real problem.

Well, maybe there'll at least be some concessions to appease young voters. And provided they win, at least go back to a pre-Trump2 Israel policy. Doesn't make me too happy though I mean the USA has basically been bankrolling Israel and outfitting their military for decades, it needs to stop.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago

The previous Israel policy is a large part of the reason why there is a second term for the pedo. Biden dragged his feet on doing anything, even just threatening to restrict weapons shipments, and Harris wouldn't say she'd do any different.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 3 days ago

And provided they win, at least go back to a pre-Trump2 Israel policy

Which is... what exactly?

To be clear, the only difference between Israel now and Israel a year ago was that Israel a year ago was at an earlier stage in their genocide and Netanyahu in a better position domestically, not in any way, shape or form that they were getting resistance from Biden. Trump is paying less lip service, but let's not forget the horrors that were being inflicted by Israel during Biden's term, especially in mid to late 2024.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

More like neoliberal billionaire paymasters telling them otherwise. Nothing more significant can be done to improve US politics, than to make all political donations over $100 illegal. No PACs, no party donations. Money can only be donated to candidates directly.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago

Some say they're even excited to try running one of those consultants next cycle

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

That's interesting given the office he's seeking has very little power to do something about it.

[–] h4x0r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 days ago

A shared set of values can go a long way in establishing trust.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 3 days ago

It's at least a nice podium for raising awareness, and it'll help break the Zionist stranglehold on American politics.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

It's also only the third most important reason, according to the polling. Considering the first two, you can see why the powers that be would like those to be the story even less.

[–] dipcart@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago