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[dude with glasses in a communist t-shirt, arguing] I'm the only leftist here, your opinions are TRASH

[dude holding a theory book on smug, arguing] Read theory you losers, you're all WRONG

[dude in an anarchist hoodie, arguing] Nuh-uh, I'm the only leftist here, you're SHITLIBS

[the three dudes are now caught in a cartoon fight, glasses gone flying, punches everywhere, while a firing squad of nazis are targeting them with rifles]

[a confused nazi asks] Why… why are they still arguing?

https://thebad.website/comic/infighting

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This is what happens when hyper-individuality becomes a core of your (western) society. It’s also a byproduct that inadvertently benefits the ruling class. They want division and leftist pockets are already doing it themselves in a lot of cases. Purity tests can fracture communities and needlessly push away potential allies.

It’s why I tend to quote Fred Hampton often. He correctly understood that it was a working class versus ruling class situation and that arguing amongst ourselves was detrimental to organizing. It’s a vertical fight and horizontal attacks waste energy. You can still point out errors in what a comrade says. Criticism, self-criticism, and debate are all components of democratic centralism.

[–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (13 children)

The problem lies when one particular set of "leftists" thinks the best way foward is to have a literal capitalist state with a red flag and execute anyone who could even be a minimal obstacle to that.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, pretty much this.

Going over the comments I already see boat loads of people completely missing the point where right wing extremism is taking hold thanks in part due to the constant bickering.

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[–] Draegur@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't care what someone calls themselves as long as they oppose fascism and understand that the only place where Pedophiles are welcome is the inside of a wood chipper.

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[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I think the premise here is flawed. It assumes infighting is the reason why we can't coalesce around a single candidate but the real reason why that isn't happening is because the DNC keeps backing right wing candidates who don't represent any of us. Too many people are under the false belief that being a Democratic politician makes one the "good guy" in the face of "evil Republicans" when in reality we've just been given two Republican candidates to choose from at the ballot box for quite some time now. They all work for the same masters and don't give a shit about fixing this broken country. They aren't two different sides, they're all on the same side against the American people.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It assumes infighting is the reason why we can't coalesce around a single candidate but the real reason why that isn't happening is because the DNC keeps backing right wing candidates who don't represent any of us.

That wouldn't really matter if we coalesced behind the candidates we want in the primary.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Except when the DNC doesn't like that candidate so they put their thumb on the scale to ensure they don't win. Why else do you think we keep getting the same handful of candidates? Clinton, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama, Obama, Clinton, Biden, Biden, Harris. Do you not see the pattern here? They want a dynasty in control not the people with the best ideas.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago (5 children)

A thumb on the scale wouldn't really matter if we were united. They put their thumb on the scale with Mamdani and he won anyway.

Why else do you think we keep getting the same handful of candidates?

Because primary turnout is something like 15% of eligible voters, who are disproportionately old and "centrist".

Do you not see the pattern here? They want a dynasty in control not the people with the best ideas.

I'm not saying that this is false, I'm just saying it wouldn't matter if we quit the infighting, rallied behind a good prospect, and actually showed up to vote for them as the Democratic candidate.

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[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (5 children)

The nice thing about the two party system is that there is no one else to vote for. Its how we got here. But at least we will have a chance of putting someone who has an idea how to run a country in charge

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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Definitely more of a problem online where everyone is competing to be "right" as if there is any one actual answer.

Even empathetic people still want simple answers and are willing to be pretty cruel to protect theirs.

Oh also really funny comic, love the punchline timing. Can really feel it.

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