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It showed up out of nowhere, made the most bank in history (for a movie), refused to explain and disappeared for like 15 years, then came back out of nowhere with a sequel movie, a AAA game, and like 3 more movies in the works.

Edit: I think it now has like a Lego line too?

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago

Well it had James Cameron as a director which automatically meant was going to make money. Also it was technically very impressive for the time which was kind of the point. Cameron made a huge deal of how this was a story that he'd wanted to tell for ages but hadn't been able to until the technology got to the point where he could use it.

After the movie came out there wasn't really any obvious path forward. It wasn't supposed to be a franchise it was just a movie that stood on its own. So nothing happened for years.

Then things like the volume came along and it started getting used even in TV productions, and suddenly a whole new level of capability arose and so they decided that they would make another movie only this time why stop at just one?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

And a huge park section at Disneyworld

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

it is unapologetically in favor of preserving nature, anticapitalist, and anti military. the boys from chapo trap house like it and point out that its one of the few movies with a mainstream theatrical release in which the audience is made to cheer on the blue furry hippie throwing a bunch of US marines out of a helicopter to their death.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anticapitalist that made over 2 Billion dollars...

[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is a solid point about the irony though. It's one of the biggest consumer capitalism things ever, even if it's anti-capitalism they're selling on the screen.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Why do you think the aliens are blue natives?

Because if they were white folk, the message would resonate too much with the general audience.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The first one used some crazy tech that is now regularly part of making video games. The movie itself is rather mid, IMO (I mean, it's just Fern Gully but sci-fi instead of fantasy 🤷‍♂️), but the stuff that went into making it is fascinating as hell.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 195 points 3 days ago (5 children)

It’s all a lot less fantastical when you compare it to Pocahontas:

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 80 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Or Fern Gully, or Dances With Wolves... it's not exactly an uncommon story.

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ah, but before Avatar came along it was never quite so poorly written!

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[–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 56 points 3 days ago

Dances with Smurfs

[–] simple@piefed.social 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes but Disney's Pocahontas was boring to tears while Avatar has cool hair-sex and explosions

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And it is otherwise entirely dull and forgettable. Despite making so much money, it barely made any cultural impact. Nobody quotes Avatar like ever.

[–] kurcatovium@piefed.social 45 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

The reason it was such a hit at the time was mainly its visuals, IMO. Story might be predictable and shallow, but you can't deny it looks beautiful. All the colorful jungle, alien species, green mountain peaks and needle rocks, it's all just very pleasant to look at. What also helped it being directed by big Hollywood name.

PS: unrelated, but it has amazing OST.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I've always looked at the Avatar movies as being more about advancing movie making technology than about creating a good movie. I think James Cameron will be more remembered for his technical advances than for this storytelling.

[–] IncogCyberspaceUser@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

On the other hand, he directed Titanic, which probably also had tech advances, but is recognized more for the story. Is that a fair observation? I was still a kid when it came out, so I know less about it than Avatar.

He helped to further submarine technology to get the shots of the Titanic for the movie, and he developed cameras that could withstand the pressures down there. He also helped design a small rover camera called Snoopy that actually went inside the Titanic to get shots of the staircase.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 2 days ago

no the tech was very much the focus at the time. they did some incredible stuff for that film.

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[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's kind of the point? Was the comparison between the Na'Vi and native Americans too subtle for you to notice before you saw this meme?

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Not for me personally. Just find it funny how 1:1 it is with the original. This meme has been around since the year the movie came out.

[–] Grimtuck@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But you could do this with every story/movie trope that's been repeated throughout our species history. The concept of retelling stories in different contexts is itself not new but for sure reason Avatar gets overly criticised for it.

You don't see the same criticisms for every bank heist movie that all follow the same basic premises as each other. I just did it a bit weird why so many people are against this particular trope. Is it because it tries to deal with our history of oppression and colonisation? I honestly don't know.

I doubt there are any truly original stories that couldn't be shown to be a retelling of another. I would even argue that some genres wouldn't exist if this wasn't a thing.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

You don't see the same criticisms for every bank heist movie that all follow the same basic premises as each other

That's because I generally don't have to hear about every bank heist movie; you can't avoid Avatar

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[–] dil@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

They pushed ocean sims to the max in the last one, I enjoy watching cgi/vfx idrc about the plot, also the naavi are hot, tall alien baddies when

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 64 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Pretty sure it now has a theme park or something, doesn't it?

It's bizarre how much "stuff" there is for the blue people Avatar franchise, considering what a tiny lasting cultural impact the original movie had.

The original movie was an incredible tech demo. It was an utterly forgettable movie. I had no desire to bother watching the sequel.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (7 children)

It’s bizarre how much “stuff” there is

It's not...

James Cameron spent a lot of money to make the first one, and wants to keep making them.

So the studio decided to just pretend that everyone wants more, and the entertainment media repeats it so the studio stays happy and tells them things.

The people don't want, but that doesn't really matter anymore. Enough will go see anything the media says is good, and just believe it's good.

Lots of people are idiots, which explains a lot about capitalism

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[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 days ago

Sure, the movies aren't very deep, but the world-building and visuals are pretty great. The emotional beats tend to hit as they should too so it's entertaining fluff. Sure, I enjoy a fancy steak, but I'm also going to fully enjoy cotton candy at the carnival too.

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[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 50 points 3 days ago (6 children)

"Showed up out of nowhere", ie. in development since the mid 90's; "made the most bank", ie. made the 2nd most bank; "disappeared", ie. Cameron said that there would be 4 sequels and that they're being worked on; "came back out of nowhere", ie. the first sequel came out more or less when it was supposed to, and Cameron said in 2020 that filming on Avatar 3 was nearly finished.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago (6 children)

i feel like the feeling of them coming "out of nowhere" and "disappearing" is created by how little cultural impact those movies managed to create. like give me a single quote, anything memorable from the story itself. we all remember it is a beautiful film to watch, but the plot might as well be a theme park ride around an alien world

nobody talks about it, there is nothing to talk about

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

like give me a single quote, anything memorable from the story itself

Well there was the part where the… uh… the guy, whatshisface said…

Wait, no… ok well how about when the… um… there was that one part in… err, either the first or the second movie, one of the aliens did… umm…

You know what, I'll get back to you on this one

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"JakeSully" - Blue catgirl Gamora

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[–] Skua@kbin.earth 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I want to hear the original version of the soundtrack. I do not care about the actual film at all, but supposedly Cameron hired a bunch of leading ethnomusicologists to attempt to create something unlike any music on Earth, only to then ditch the majority of what they made because it sounded too weird

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago

Man, it's just so friggin boring. I gave up on the second movie halfway through and I struggled through the first one. I don't understand why it became a global blockbuster.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In “How To With John Wilson” he finds an actual Avatar fan group who like to dress up as blue aliens, but it still felt super niche for a multi billion dollar film series. It’s like everyone simply forgets about it when there’s not one on in cinemas.

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