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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/48839040

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago

If you want to be a decent human being, you have to ignore large swathes of the Bible, including things Jesus says in it. Unless you think slavery is acceptable, for example. Left leaning Christians ignore the bad stuff, and right leaning Christians ignore the good stuff.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Also personal rights.

Also responsible economics.

Also patriotism.

Also small government.

Also state rights.

Also going after pedophiles and murders.

They really hate all the things they claim to love.

Christian teachings might be the thing they hate the most though.

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

They call those Christian teachings "wokeness" these days.

[–] Jakule17@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Should add “unless it inconveniences you” after every one of them

[–] deacon@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Evangelical Christianity is nothing but a malleable garment that we use to dress up and cover whatever bigotries we want to preserve in our society.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Shouldn't the ad recommend a remedy?

Ask your doctor if sterilization is right for you.

A lobotomy also works, one of the few cases where patients actually become smarter.

[–] Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Christian left is quite large and active, but it doesn't attract media attention. Treating everyone like human beings and trying to help those in need isn't nearly as interesting as spewing mindless hatred and engaging in constant hypocrisy. Those who follow "Republican Jesus" make for better entertainment.

[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

Not to mention that being humble and reserved are values that are strongly emphasized by Jesus, so people actually trying to follow his teachings won't usually be the vocal, obvious ones.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It is impossible to know for certain what jesus did or did not teach.

[–] SpookyLights@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Jesus never wrote any of it down, neither did anyone who ever met Jesus, as far as we can tell.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thank you for this! I'm now going to add "Objection: Hearsay!" To my list of "How to argue with Christians using the Bible".

It will slot in very well right after the "Jesus said we don't have to follow Leviticus" arguments.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago

Christianity has a very rich scholarly history. If you find yourself discussing it often, i would absolutely recommend looking up some of the real scholars on the matter (rather than listening to me or any other random person online).

But also, you're welcome :)

[–] SpookyLights@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Gotcha, thank you for elaborating

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago

You're so welcome, thanks for asking

[–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You have to exist to be able to write stuff down, so that’s probably why he didn’t.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There probably was a historical jesus.

Otherwise I don't see why Christians would have made up the whole trip to Bethlehem story about a census which we have no record of. They needed the real jesus to have some reason to be in the prophecied place.

[–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At that time in that region there were a lot of cults. It’s very likely that the Jesus figure from the bible is an amalgamation of multiple cult leaders from that period.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Of course, by the definition of cult used at that time all monotheistic and henotheistic religions are cults.

[–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 1 points 20 hours ago

Yes they are. The only difference between a cult and a religion is the number of followers.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The teachings of Jesus didn't survive Rome without losing much in the process (some might even say it lost its own soul, as faith became something you "believed" and not something that is only visible through ones actions), what made you think they would even be recognizable in the US? 🤷

Honestly, all around the world people are selfish, immature and functionally illiterate. The majority of so called believers have never read any scripture at all, and I will never understand those people. The lights are definitely off in their mind shacks...

Ignore? It seems like these guys willfully try to contradict them.