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From the first days of Russia’s full-scale invasion, Western leftists have invoked “peace” as a slogan — as if peace were not already at the heart of every Ukrainian’s daily prayer. They warn the world not to “provoke” the Kremlin, as if Ukraine’s restraint could halt Russian missiles. For Ukraine’s own leftists, though, the prospect of total annihilation has laid bare how hollow abstract pacifism sounds when survival itself is on the line.

When Russian forces tried to take Kyiv in 2022, Ukrainian writer Artem Chapeye — a well-known leftist and outspoken male feminist — made sure his family reached safety before he enlisted to defend his country. In his latest book "Ordinary People Don’t Carry Machine Guns," translated into English by Zenia Tompkins and published by Seven Stories Press, Chapeye reflects on his path to military service, the ways in which the war has upended parts of Ukrainian society, and what it means to hold onto your humanity when forced to pick up a weapon.

“It’s easy to hide behind the abstract idea that ‘the more weapons there are, the more war there’ll be’ when you yourself are safe,” Chapeye writes.

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[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

“It’s easy to hide behind the abstract idea that ‘the more weapons there are, the more war there’ll be’ when you yourself are safe,” Chapeye writes.

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I was a pacifist in the early 2000's, right up until I saw all the pacifist's getting beheaded and blown up in market places

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago

I try to be a pacifist but I view it as an individual thing. After all is one going to physically force pacifism on someone. That would make no sense. I have seen folks with signs and I can't even see doing that. Sure I will discuss it but I can't tell someone not to defend themselves when attacked and I don't know what I will do in that situation. It reminds me of that ska song. Never knocked on wood. Its like no one is truly a pacifist or really anything until they die and you can see what they were true to.