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[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This story seems extremely fishy to me. This guy is claiming that an entire group of strangers including transit employees just lost their minds and grouped together to violently assault him at the mere sight of a kippah? That seems extremely implausible and reminds me of the other recent incidents where Israeli men were running around a neighborhood assaulting people and making death threats toward residents before the residents turned on them. The media just reported it as "Jewish men attacked for being Jewish" before the real story came out days later.

If the situation were really this bad in Milan, this would be more that just a single incident against one individual.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He says in the article he expects it...

And he has for years:

Among other things, Noemi Di Segni, president of the Union of Italian Jewish Communities, alleged that ministerial support for revenge attacks on Arabs and other minorities in the name of Jewish identity had made it “impossible” to be a proud Jew or Israeli.

“The pride we feel toward Israeli institutions must continue. It cannot become a thing of the past,” Di Segni said during an event at the Spanish Synagogue beneath Rome’s Tempio Maggiore.

Di Segni appeared to refer to increasing settler violence in the West Bank amid a wave of Palestinian terror attacks. Last week, extremist settlers responded to a terror shooting in which two brothers were killed by rampaging through the Nablus-area town of Huwara, setting homes and cars on fire. One Palestinian was shot dead and several were badly hurt.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/italian-jewish-leader-assails-israeli-policies-in-speech-attended-by-netanyahu/

It's just now he's apparently forgotten why everyone is so mad at Israel, and who spends millions on propaganda conflating Israel with the Jewish religion

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 8 points 2 weeks ago

It's just now he's apparently forgotten why everyone is so mad at Israel, and who spends millions on propaganda conflating Israel with the Jewish religion

I mean, he can know what caused it and condemn it. Also the person saying he expects it and the one you're quoting are two different people. The former is the victim in the article, who presumably has nothing to do with Italy.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

As an American Ashkenazi Jew i have very little sympathy for my people left.

Almost every act of "antisemitism" i see is an attack against someone who is supporting the Gaza genocide.

Also the IDF is using American tax dollars to spam social media to conflate antisemitism with antizionism

Any moral Jewish person left needs to be condemning Isreal and Zionism.

Edit: oh wow this one wasn't a Zionist. Hopefully Netanyahu is shot soon so things like this stop happening.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I remember when Arab Americans objected that it wasn't their responsibility to condemn terrorist attacks every time they happened, since they personally had nothing to do with them and were only connected by race or religion with the perpetrators.

They were right.

[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Shit, how about every Asian during covid for a recent example.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They should have vocally and regularly denounced exotic wet markets and gain of function viral experiments everywhere they went.

[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"If someone is holding a bat in one hand and a duck in the other, they are a terrorist"

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe change bat to raccoon dog, because I thought they were armed at first.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yet the actions of a few individuals resulted in racist attacks against the entire race.

Sadly all Jews can do right now to not get targeted is make it very clear they don't support the Zionists and their genocide.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Edit: oh wow this one wasn't a Zionist. Hopefully Netanyahu is shot soon so things like this stop happening.

This goes a lot deeper than Netanyahu, and frankly not much will change if he dies tomorrow.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think if Israelis shot their genocidal leaders they wouldn't be able to commit genocide.

Probably a lot more memebers of the Zionist party would have to be shot before the genocide stopped tho.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I get that being against Israel's actions in Gaza and the West Bank is not in itself anti-Semitism. That's clear. Lots of people in these communities like to emphasize the point that being Jewish and supporting Israel's actions are not the same thing.

Then something like this happens, and the mask comes off. People in this community think this man has some duty to fix the Palestinian crisis before he can expect to walk around in Italy with a kippah on.

Conflating Jewish people with the action in Gaza is anti-Semitic. Don't bullshit us on other threads how you're focused only on Zionism if you're not going to condemn this here. And spare us the "I don't condone it, but I understand it" crap too. You understand a racist mindset too well.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, the people going mask off are getting heavily downvoted and pushback in the comments. There's still too many for my liking, but the prevailing sentiment seems to be consistently anti-racist.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

I hope that's how it pans out.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

The issue is that the article is leaving out a lot of information and relies on Israeli-extremist claims such as by the ADL, who infamously defended Elon Musk for his Nazi salute, despite Musk also spreading 20th century Antisemitic conspiracies. Meanwhile the ADL calls any criticism of Israel antisemitic and their statistics are deliberately conflating the two.

We only have the description of what happened by the person injured. We have seen many times over the past years in Europe that Israeli tourist or local Israel-extremists have been instigating violence or deliberately provoking people in order to paint themselves as victims of Antisemitism.

Until we get the full picture from the police investigation, we should not jump to conclusions either way. It is possible that this was an antisemitic attack, which needs to be condemned, but it is also possible that this is another case of deliberate escalation to claim Antisemitism where it wasn't the case.

Recently a French teenager group caused havoc on a flight from Valencia to Paris, endangering the passengers and crew.
https://apnews.com/article/spain-france-airline-c3300d54258216358b83b8ad8da791cf

The Maccabi TelAviv Hooligans roaming through Amsterdam, attacking locals and destroying property, then being painted as victims while celebrating their raids on the flight back home also left a very sour mark.

Either way, Israels strategy of lumping together Judaism and Israel is working to make Jews around the world less safe, which is crucial for Israel to claim itself as a "safe haven" for Jews.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 2 weeks ago

This is legitimately fucked up, on its own too or course but more deeply because we have good reason to believe this is a sign for things to come. Westerners, watch out before you're back from work and suddenly it's Kristallnacht. It's really fucked up that the Zionist-faacist alliance is throwing Jews under the bus in this way, but this trend cannot be allowed to stand or we'll be looking at a repeat of this.

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

I thought that the headline was talking about the mafia for a second, there.