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[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 158 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Remember in 2012 how everyone was horrified when an authoritarian government like China forced everyone to disclose their identities to get online so they could track and censor them?

Now the authoritarians are here.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 55 points 3 days ago

The joke of the China comparison was that we had a bunch of libertarians screaming "We can't have social services! The government will weaponize them against us and track everything we say and do!!! Public healthcare, public transit, public education, public utilities - they're all a slippery slope to the Police State, just like in China!"

And now we get all the same mass surveillance via privatized channels, while libertarians seem to have fully clammed up (when they aren't quietly cheering on psychopaths like RFK Jr). But we get none of the public amenities. Yay... love my Freedom(TM)

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 108 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's not making lists of dissenters... /s

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago

Nah no problems here. Move along but before you do please leave a copy of your government id.

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 45 points 3 days ago

We're gonna be sending AI generated photos to AI powered age verifiers to read AI generated articles about the latest developments in AI.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 81 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Sounds like it's time for those subreddits to find new homes on non-UK instances of Lemmy.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 47 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

All kinds of governments are rushing to implement something similar. The Fediverse solves some problems, but not the problem of a site being hosted in a single geographical location (and thus a single government's jurisdiction). To help with this there are tools like i2p that can obscure a site's hosting location, and there's also work on distributed web hosting, but the latter still seems to be in its early stages. One day maybe we'll have distributed websites that can be resilient against censorship.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hey, we wouldn't want young people to know that they're being propagandized by the state of Israel to ignore a genocide, would we? Let's block them from informing themselves under the guise of "protecting" them from porn, which they'll still be able to get to from shadier websites that bombard them with malware. Yeah, that's the solution.

Politicians are so out of touch. Also, all zionists can rot in hell.

[–] HenryDorsett@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, politicians are way out of touch. On every level.

For Zionists... well, that just sounds like genocide with extra steps.... You'd think the Jewish diaspora would be against genocide, but here we are.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago

You’d think the Jewish diaspora would be against genocide, but here we are.

They're like the parents who abuses their kids because that's how they were raised.

[–] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago

casually slides IP address across English Channel to France

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 40 points 4 days ago (3 children)
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[–] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I heard that some of the checks require video of the person performing particular movements. So a little harder to fake with AI.

[–] Draegur@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There are video deepfake systems that can animate these fictional faces. We need a catalogue of the kinds of facial positions these systems ask for

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

One of them that is hard is waving your hand in front of your face. It trips up almost every deepfake system I’ve seen. That’s a common test we’ve had to start using with interviewees because they’d try to game the system.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

interviewees? what? where are you using this?

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

A little, but it will only get easier.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

https://old.reddit.com/r/ukrainewarfootage

seems to work

Nobody uses the new reddit ux, right?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's crazy that we have website that are just outlets for war gore to begin with. The "solution" to the social rot that is monetization of war pornography appears to be adding a bunch of faces to a big database marked "Adult", I guess?

Who does this even benefit, other than data warehousing and aggregation companies?

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Fascists governments that want a list of who oppose something probably

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 5 points 3 days ago

I wouldn't call it outlets for war gore. It is also about providing information that mainstream media refuses to give or intentionally distort to fit its narrative.

[–] SculptusPoe@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

Infuriating and horrifying in a way that triggers my claustrophobia. Even more infuriating are the people in America who are begging for censorship. You point out what a trash heap Europe's censorship is and they shrug, as long as the censorship is by them against the "other side" whichever side that is they have no concept of what happens when that "other side" gets a hold of the reins. I would rather have to sift through 10 feet of nazi posts than have the government have a way to legitimately hold a verified list of everything everybody does.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If the kids can't see the horrors of war [crimes], they're more likely to be convinced of being participants.

[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

I feel like this belongs here...

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How do they verify the selfie is actually the user?

[–] tane69@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They don’t, people have been using death stranding 2 photo mode to get around it

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Some people, certainly. Others aren't so tech savvy, so they're stuck making due.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You send another selfie of what you actually look like, so they can compare.

[–] HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago

It's selfies all the way down.

[–] jaupsinluggies@feddit.uk 10 points 3 days ago

https://social-rise.com/blog/list-of-nsfw-subreddits says there are 10476 NSFW subreddits so is this the first of a 5238 long list of articles that all say "UK Users need to post selfie or photo id to view ... and ..."?

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh, so this is what VPNs are used for?

[–] GeriatricGambino@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Reddit blocks you plain and simple if you use a vpn, and has done so for a while. Also I don't see how VPN relates to them gatekeeping 2 subs behind a mandatory doxxing of yourself.

[–] bobo1900@startrek.website 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you use a vpn you appear as a non-uk user, you don't have to show the ID. If you don't have an existing account, the only reliable source of geolocation for websites is your ip address, so a vpn can effectively circumvent that.

[–] GeriatricGambino@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Oh, right. I didn't thought of that at all, I never went beyond "well, they don't let you use VPNs anyway. Man I need to sleep. And thanks for explaining.

[–] HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Reddit blocks you plain and simple if you use a vpn

Not really true. Some VPN IPs are blocked, so you'd have to select a new VPN endpoint and try again.

Source: have done this multiple times when switching VPN endpoints.

[–] GeriatricGambino@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Huh, just went and managed to get the frontpage after 5 tries with mullvad. To be fair haven't really tried too hard to go back on Reddit the last two years, and just assumed the blocking of IPs was stricker. Still, thanks for correcting me

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just visited with my personal VPN, which I'd advocate anyone with technical chops to spin up. Digital Ocean droplet, been in use for years with zero maintenance, $6/mo., and no one gets my logs.

[–] CorruptCheesecake@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Wouldn't traffic analysis be easier without having a crowd to blend into?

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, this is what happens when you write laws with vague language. Companies will always err on the side of caution.

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[–] doopen@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I wonder if this will affect RSS feeds

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