Would you rather it be a ghost town, or a bustling city of clowns? ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
this post was submitted on 29 Jul 2025
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Still more people than I can ever talk to or get to know. It's enough.
Some of the comments are pretty hilarious though.
"Uhm Kim Jong Un is great actually" is one of the most out there I see often xd
At the job of totalitarian dictator I guess he is pretty great... not been overthrown yet!
lmao
Clowns.
I don't know what piefed is and at this point I'm too afraid to ask. XD
But otherwise, yes, there's only so many times one can try to explain reality to tankie cultists.
Lemmy is developed by tankies though, after being kicked off of Reddit and going out and making their own (federated) replacement.
PieFed is a forum software developed by anti-alternative-facts-ers, which also has many more features than Lemmy despite being far newer, owing its development speed to it being in Python rather than the difficult language of Rust that most developers avoid. Examples include categories of communities (like multi-reddits), which are user customizable and shareable, and combination together of all comments from every cross-post, which helps deal with the fragmentation effect inherent in federated forums, and flairs (user and post), and polls, etc. It's great!
Read more, or try it out firsthand at the European-based PieFed.social (primary instance where all the features are tested out first) or PieFed.World (run by Lemmy.world team) or others - once you see it you'll forever think of Lemmy as being far behind.
Best of all is that PieFed features aim at putting power into the hands of users to make more informed decisions - e.g. democratization of moderation and putting the community sidebar text at the bottom of every post in the web view - while in contrast Lemmy, owing to its tankie background, has ended up more authoritian than Reddit itself was (e.g. there is a modlog in Lemmy but no modmail, no notification of a moderation event, no method of appeal or even to ask questions, and you can't even DM someone when the name of the account that removed your content simply says "mod" - it didn't always used to be that way btw, that was a feature that Lemmy specifically added, to obfuscate the name of the mod, even while a modmail still does not exist yet).
Lemmy is primarily developed with instance admins in mind to run their own Reddit 2.0 however they like, while PieFed provides more features to end-users - it even has several that not only Lemmy but even Reddit itself lacks!
Thanks for the expansive information! I'm very interested! I'll definitely try it out!
It's definitely the latest hot tool on the Fediverse, it'll be great to know about it even if for some reason you decide to stick with a Lemmy instance. Although my guess is that one glance at the features and you will fall in love, switch, and stay with it forever - yes I truly believe that:-).
Like one of the absolute best features if how it allows you to have your cake and eat it too: on the Threadiverse it can be harder to find more niche content, but those Categories of Communities (oops, now called "Topics" I forgot) really help you dig deeper. A positive example is poetry, often ignored by most Lemmings, but it's one of the featured ones - e.g. Arts & Crafts @ piefed.social, then the sub-category/topic of "Arts".
e.g. if you get overwhelmed by "politics" literally EVERYWHERE, you can unsubscribe to the political communities, yet always have politics available at the touch of a button by visiting the News & Politics Topic page (subdivisions of USA, World, and RSS Feeds), this is what I mean by "having your cake" (ability to not join these communities, so that their content does not overwhelm your Subscribed feed) while also "eating it too" (ability to still read & easily find it).
As you can guess, it can take awhile to get used to what PieFed offers and fully optimize it to tailor it to your wants - but it's just fantastic that it even offers it in the first place, free, and also free of tankie philosophies as well, it's amazing!:-P
No politics? Shit, I needa find me a nice app, fast. I am a fan of Jerboa for its simplicity, but it's Lemmy-only, I reckon. I think it's an "official" Lemmy app (could be wrong, tho)
Not just no politics but the ability to both have far less of it while still reading up on it when you want! Tbf a true "no politics" would be nearly impossible - e.g. is an OC painting "political" if it depicts an image of Trump?
The best features of PieFed are going to be in the web UI for awhile until app devs catch up. In addition to Voyager as someone mentioned, there is also Interstellar and several others, as well as a Thunder fork (but not checked into the main code available on the App store yet).
I heard on the grapevine that Voyager is working on Piefed support.
It's in beta right now. I'm using it to comment.
Voyager looks like it'd fit better on iOS. But maybe I'll give it a try, eventually
There's Summit for Android
Meant in fun btw:-P but also seriously too: like how much shit will you tolerate in your drink or food before you choose to not consume it at all, and why bother entering not only a Nazi bar but the very corner where those who prefer Alternative to True Facts hang out?
The motto of Lemmy: block early, block often, if you value your sanity. I joined PieFed long before it was fully developed because I love how it provides the tools that we as users crave, many of which Lemmy not merely has not gotten around to yet nor even just refuses to implement but actively goes backwards on. e.g. a Lemmy "instance block" does not really block an instance, although early on it did more than it does now, by silencing notifications sent to you by members from it, before changing to now allow those notifications. I almost left the Threadiverse after unknowingly making what I thought was an innocuous comment in Chapotraphouse@hexbear.net (about USA President Biden and gas prices, how should I have known better when I had not seen the sidebar, plus often the sidebar says nothing about what truly goes on in a community?), and then again in lemmygrad.ml, but instead I merely left just Lemmy and get to keep all the wonderful communities that are now being migrated elsewhere away from certain instances that don't agree with actual facts and more importantly, violate the rules by attempting to bully people onto submission rather than engage in rational dialogue. I'm done with that now, yet PieFed saved me from having to leave the Threadiverse entirely to get away from such.:-)
Another benefit is that I get to give people who chose the "right" instances more attention.
Obligatory warning that taking that thought to its extreme will result in an echo chamber, which is exactly how certain other instances have become what they are now. But... yeah, it is one of the tactics of people who espouse certain beliefs to "flood the zone" leaving the other side so exhausted from pushing back against all the little lies that bit by bit, cm by cm (or inch by inch for Americans:-P), the conversation shifts to favor the side that is willing to engage in such horrid tactics to "win" arguments (by mostly avoiding arguments at all and instead just bullying those who want to truly dialogue on matters of substance into giving up all attempts to try to have them).
- this reference is to the Alt-Right Playbook series from Innuendo Studios, a fascinating and extremely well-done, quite in-depth look (yet presented very accessibly, in bite-sized chunks that you can consume while e.g. eating) at many of the tactics used by the Alt-Facts crowd (including GamerGate, Alt-Right conservatives, and tankies). A good way to start is this one: The South Bank of the Rubicon