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All animals being used in animal agriculture and industry suffer, every choice for any products from animals contributes to animal suffering, while every time we do not need those things, there are alternatives without anything from animals for those. But there are addictive substances in food from animal products in them. These are so easy to get past, like within several weeks, and I found the alternatives are not even needed with just having tasty healthy food, that I continue with, and I can say ways I know to have that.

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[–] Lafari@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Don't forget the wildlife issue is multifactorial. You have the impact of animal agriculture on the climate & Earth's natural ecosystems, ghgs, pollution, land/water/crop/resource use, deforestation, habitat destruction, species extinction, etc (all of which harms and threatens most life on Earth including humans).... but more directly not only do humans wipe out wild animal populations in order to protect "livestock" farming operations (that disturbing irony of "farmers heroically saving the animals from danger so that they can kill them later"...) but then also use that to vindicate the killing of the other animals that become more densely populated as a result of humans' prior disruption to the balance of the various species within the ecosystem. So it's literally... killing animals to kill animals to kill animals. E.g. killing the deers in order to kill the foxes/bears in order to kill the cows/pigs/chickens ....violence begets violence

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The poem sounds like extremist drivel. While based in some truth, it is disproportionately balanced and most likely is just used as fuel to make people's worldviews more polarised or, rather, passes black and white to just become black.

Propaganda is dangerous. Unbiased information and education of related subjects is far more powerful. Be careful with what you consume, OP

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I agree about this polarizes the divide between careless meat-eaters and total vegans (though i'm on neither end of that spectrum myself), but i do like how it points out how ridiculous our system is. We first kill people to have more place for our animals and their food, then kill the animals that threaten our own animals, then kills those animals to eat them even though eating them will eventually kill us too. And we continue this habbit by expanding our Lebensraum, killing more humans and animals so we can have more animals to eat dispite the facts we are now starving people elsewhere because they don't have space to grow food anymore.

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Well, it does outline where we seem to be heading. Unfortunately not enough is being done to overhaul how we all live and grow in population, and this is definitely one of the critical issues that drive us toward an unstable crescendo of unsustainability. Well said!