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[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 76 points 4 days ago (29 children)

AI should have been used to do work for us to give us more time for art. Not the other way around...

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[–] copygirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Tangentially related: Oh boi I just love AI bros coming out of nowhere defending GenAI when nobody asked for their opinion. Wish more communities / instances would take a hard anti-AI stance and just get rid of them. It's not like anyone will make them see where they're wrong.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 8 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I've started adding 🤡 or 💩 tags to people's usernames when they can't pull their head out of their ass.

Gives me a heads up on what to dodge without falling victim to an overzealous admin wildly swinging the ban-hammer.

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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (7 children)

I actually think the "it's soulless... FOR NOW" panel is pretty important.

People who believe in the value of human creativity have been pretty casual about saying that AI generated work isn't as good as work created by a person, but what happens if in another iteration or two it actually CAN produce "good" "art"? Like, what happens if it's cranking out screenplays and paintings that DO pass muster? We've got to be prepared for that possibility, and try to act now to make sure that our world is structured around preserving human dignity on its own merits. The existence of a faster work-doing machine shouldn't necessitate that all human workers must now starve.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A computer-generated "Van Gogh" is not art any more than a mass-produced coffee mug is artisanal, no matter how "realistic".

This has all happened before. Take photography. People thought it was the end of visual art. If anyone can take a photograph, why would anyone spend years learning to paint?

Artists answered by pushing the medium beyond the limits of realism. Impressionism. This did not make photographs go away. But when I see a picture of someone's cat, I don't usually go "art!" – even though 200 years ago the mere existence of a photorealistic picture would have implied very impressive artistry.

The work that clankers are very quickly taking over is that which does not require art. Visual filler. Lorem ipsum. Corporate communications. Out with artisans, in with industrial machinery. This is the same story that has already happened to almost every artisanal trade, from scribery to pottery to smithing. Visual artists and writers thought themselves exempt from the industrial revolution; they aren't. It will be a worsening socio-economic crisis. But it won't "end" art. Clankers definitionally cannot, and will never do art. Not until they gain a conscience of their own.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

+100. I wish I could pin this.

That being said, I think AI Bro existentialism and singularity hype has a lot of people on particular edge, beyond what the camera and other past innovations triggered, since it's pushed at such high levels of our world. But (speaking a fervent local ML tinkerer), the proof is not in their puddin', as professional, foundational researchers would tell you as well. Not just because of technical limitations, but because corporate enshittification is already taking effect.

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[–] absentbird@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

I think this idea misses the fundamental way that the transformer works on neural networks. The output can be useful, but the mechanism of arriving there is more about probability than creativity.

An LLM cannot create true art because it cannot experience feelings, it has no continuity of being. It can only replicate the artistic patterns it was trained on; those patterns can come from true art, and can be combined in unique ways, but the only real art is in the writing of the prompt and the data it was trained on.

It's like how the patterns of a kaleidoscope can make beautiful images, but all the creativity is in it's construction and how it's used.

We could conceivably extend the transformer model to include other aspects of thought, possibly even a consciousness capable of artistic expression, but it will take a lot of new work, it's not a place we can arrive by simply adding more power or additional training to our current models.

Almost all the algorithms used by modern AI were written decades ago, it's only usable now because compute power has made such huge gains. It will likely take many decades more to create true artificial consciousness.

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[–] Contentedness@lemmy.nz 46 points 4 days ago

I think the first page works all on its own. Whole thing is great tho!

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Not pictured: broke stenographers operating the rollercoaster in tears because their jobs were taken by computers long before the chatbots came to town.

(It's me, I am the stenographer :( )

[–] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I wish I could type as fast as you.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 9 points 4 days ago

YouTube added the shittest, laziest AI generated category graphics to the app, leaving me thinking “fucking Google doesn’t have any spare money knocking around to spend on this?!”.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 19 points 4 days ago

Missing panel where management is burnt out fixing slop and doing this on top of normal work.

[–] uservoid1@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago
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