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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 5 days ago (3 children)
[–] lilith267@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And both suck for discord-like large communities (esspeically xmpp). We have thousands of open source p2p encrypted secure messaging software, yet almost nothing that even gets close to IRC for federated communities. In all fairness I also haven't sat down and tried coding a software like that but I'd 100% throw some cash at anyone who can

[–] anothercatgirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Did teamspeak have any success? It seemed selfhostable and had some channels last time I fiddled with it.

[–] bobzer@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Holy shit, Teamspeak is still going?

Last time I used it was for a project reality server 12 years ago.

[–] fushuan@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 days ago

if by going you mean it's whole identity is shittion on discord on socials while not delivering what's been promised for ages (ts5 now 6 server data for selfhosting)... Yeah? Super alive?

As opposed to one that's just shit and constantly getting worse.

[–] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info 5 points 5 days ago

Finally! You found something where XMPP can't compete with Matrix.

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Idk what was meant by this one, but they keep pushing updates that break preexisting setups. This would be fine if admins were sufficiently warned and they added proper info about breaking changes to their changelogs, but they simply havent done that.

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I’ve been eyeing Matrix, never gotten around to use it. What’s the deal here?

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Devs keep pushing breaking changes, if you use a major instance you probably won't notice,if you self-host you will definitely notice

[–] tarsisurdi@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Isn't it just a matter of upgrading infrastructure to the latest version as should already be done anyway for security concerns? Do the updates break configs or something else?

looks like they like changing their API often

https://spec.matrix.org/v1.10/changelog/

[–] tarsisurdi@lemmy.eco.br 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why is the opinion around Matrix so negative? Been using it with Beeper for years and never really had issues related to the protocol...

[–] ElectroLisa@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The issues are with the apps rather than the protocol

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, the issue is also with the protocol, but if you use a big commercial homeserver like Beeper or Matrix.org you don't notice it so much. But try self-hosting Matrix and you will quickly notice how bad the protocol is.

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Huh? Can you explain more? I've self-hosted for a few years now, I set up the config once, made a cronjob that updates every now and then, and it just works on a reasonably fast server.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 days ago

Then you must be using it only in a very limited fashion, or have extremely beefy hardware.

If you use it a bit more, the hardware demands due to the totally over-engineered protocol shoot up and the advanced administration options are very limited and cryptic. And if something goes wrong it is very difficult to fix without abandoning the domain name and starting over from scratch, which is again a protocol issue.

[–] tarsisurdi@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 5 days ago

Element? Beeper? Fractal? What's the matter?