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[–] Localhorst86@feddit.org 153 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

This is nothing new. Before the steam deck came out, Handheld PCs have already been ~~overpriced~~ expensive. Other manufacturers haven't bothered about affordability before, during ot after the steam deck.

That said, Gabe Newell said the steam deck was priced "painfully", which means they probably had very low margins on the hardware and are making it back on sales on their store. Other manufacturers do not have that luxury.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Steam Deck hits a sweet spot. You can make it more powerful, but it'll cost significantly more. You can make it cheaper, but you'll cut out too many games people want to play.

Also, anything like this with a resolution higher than 720p is wasting pixels and GPU power, IMO.

[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)
  1. you couldn't make it more powerful, it had the best of the best.
  2. my eyes work, and I still I don't think clearer text and UI is a waste
[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There are several competitors that are more powerful, like the ROG Ally. They also need a bigger battery to support it, or they have worse battery life. And they're more expensive.

Clear text and UI is an issue because games don't scale their shit properly.

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[–] zecg@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Other manufacturers do not have that luxury.

They can find some margin in using a rolling Arch distro instead of paying for Windows, Gabe helpfully provided the template that you can reuse.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 9 points 5 days ago

Which if anything is other manufacturers benefiting from the R&D that Valve have done with Proton and just making it freely available to anyone.

[–] voytrekk@sopuli.xyz 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I doubt Windows is the reason these are more expensive. Microsoft wants Windows in the handheld PC space, so they are likely to provide licenses for free and likely help subsidize the costs a bit, especially if they include trials for gamepass.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 21 points 5 days ago

Except that Windows versions of the same handheld are more expensive.

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago

I wouldnt call devices like the GPDwin overpriced considering it's probably lower volume production and niche use case.
But they are overpriced in direct performance comparison.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 63 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Valve can easily sell Steam Decks with $0 profit. Can't say the same for other OEMs.

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 39 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But we're not taking about other handhelds being 25 bucks more, or 50, or 75, or even 100 more, no, we're taking about being multiple hundreds more

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I mean, I don’t know valve’s margins but strategically they could sell steam decks at a loss and still come out ahead.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago

I believe some youtubers mentioned (maybe Tyler McVicker or some other in the space) that they are razor sharp margins and border on being profitable just like a console manufacturer.

[–] dipcart@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

100%

Before I bought a steam deck I hadn't used steam in years. Now I've bought like 20 games... Its a great way to get people on steam who otherwise wouldnt be interested.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

they're also forgetting the touchpads. the touchpads are so fucking good, and they add so much usability and flexibility. so much, I think, that no amount of superior performance, resoution, or battery life can make up for the lack of them.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

This is why I bought a deck oled even with the other more powerful handhelds already out.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have the OLED too and it's such an exceptional device. Works very well as a media PC too, especially with KDE Connect for controlling remotely from a smartphone

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

It's so nice fr, it helps I had sorta "prepared" by learning Bazzite on my spare laptop prior, so got very familiar with the immutable aspects and flatpaks/appimages

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Absolutely. They make mouse-based games playable with a controller. Gyro is nice too.

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[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 32 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (18 children)

If only there was something to be done to slash the price while not losing anything important like using an OS that is FREE... But alas, there's no such thing, I guess we'll have to stick with windows, adding the license price to a hardware that is already expensive...

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (9 children)

Technically the OS isn't free: Valve pays a team of developers to maintain the SteamOS and also donates money to Arch and Ubuntu foundations as well as to the Proton and Wine dev teams as well as contributes code to the linux kernel. All costing them money, that they eat but could easily find a way to charge the end user

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I mean... bazzite? ChimeraOS? You don't need to go to steamOS to find a free linux distro that works well with games. Hell, you could even customize one based on any of those so you don't have to pay for a windows license for your products.

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[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Technically the OS isn't free

And practically, that doesn't matter. Valve isn't charging anyone a licensing fee for the software they've developed, so as far as the cost of the device goes SteamOS is free. Just because they could charge for it doesn't change that.

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[–] alessandro@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Any device that come with SteamOS by default, is a device that doesn't come with both Windows and Xbox game store by default. Basically Valve isn't paying for the OS, it's paying for devices that run Steam Store by default (instead direct, unfair, competition from Microsoft)

Can Windows PC come by default with Steam Store? Of course... if Microsoft allow them to.

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[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

That title is cringe as fuck. There's nothing concerning about it at all. Market saw Steam Deck's success so they dove in. Whether they survive is dependent on if they provide good price points or justification for a higher price. Super simple.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago

It's called enshitification, we knew it was coming.

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I just want something that I can play up to say Playstation 3 or Xbox 360 level emulation

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 3 points 4 days ago

I dunno what this article is on about, you can find thousands of those from the likes of Anbernic, Powkiddy, Miyoo, Retroid, etc.

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