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[–] scytale@piefed.zip 85 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Mac@mander.xyz 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

FIFO & JIT production, definitely.
Gotta maintain agility!

"What's in the next sprint?"
"Stack more fucking rocks."

JIT is a plague on humanity.

[–] Soapbox@lemmy.zip 32 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Off season farm workers, paid in beer.

The pyramids are proof that with enough beer you can do anything.

[–] laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 58 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The current understanding is actually that the builders would have been paid.

[–] SleepyPie@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

In just enough beer to survive their next shift

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Well then probably paid from the profits of slavery. That much labor could not have been cheap.

Also I imagine they had divisions of labor. The guys who knew how to calculate the angle of the triangle or artisans who could shape the stone were probably not the same guys pushing rocks.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Depending on how exactly you draw the line on 'slavery'... maybe? Kinda?

For the Great Pyramid, the current approximate consenus is that it was basically a corvee labor system for a large amount of the population of Egypt.

Basically, when the farmers were all in their off season, they'd be drafted for a number of months a year to aid construction as general laborers.

They were housed, fed, and paid for this, by the state/royal coffers.

They were paid in material goods like foodstuffs, as currency in the way we think of it wasn't really a thing at the time.

And yes, they absolutely did have divisions of labor, they had basically nobility or psuedo nobilility people who could largely read and write as trained architects and engineers and mathematicians and record keepers and accountants, and had a whole slew of the craftsmen / stone mason class below them.

So... it is forced labor, you couldn't really opt out, but you would be compensated.

Egypt did have roughly chattel slaves at the time, they probably participated as well, but they are estimated to be about 10% of the total population of Egypt at the time.

(Compare this to say, 1st century AD/CE Rome, where I think the estimate is more like roughly 20-30% being slaves)

There is also the religious component: It is likely that many of the drafted laborers viewed this as a privilege or sacred duty to construct the tomb of their living god-king, who they would have believed became essentially immortal, his spirit would be preserved for eternity, as a consequence of their work.

So maybe think of it as an extremely intensive mission trip to go build shelters for the needy, as a rough analogue to modernity... it was some kind of good, moral, holy thing to do.

[–] laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

To: All Staff

From: HR

Subject: EXCITING new partnership!

Team, we've been reviewing some of history's most successful large-scale projects for inspiration, and the data is clear! The absolute best results came from teams who believed their CEO was literally a god.

While we can't quite arrange that, we've found the next best thing!

After a productive meeting, we've received a special clarification directly from the Vatican! Turns out, Colossians 3:23 ("Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord") is now considered binding corporate policy.

So, effective immediately, hitting your quarterly goals is a direct path to salvation. Slacking off... well, let's just say the paperwork for eternal damnation is a real hassle for everyone involved.

Let's get to work, saints!

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 days ago

Is this like a Return To Office thing, or can I continue to build the pyramid from home?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I realize this is a joke, and it did elicit a good chuckle from me, but I have two technical sort of nit picks / factoids.

As I understand these things:

To the vast majority of Catholics, the Pope is not literally a god-king, who becomes basically a minor god oh his physical death, or just literally is onenof the greater gods made incarate... the Pope is God's chosen representative on Earth, sort of like a more formalized version of many Old Testament prophets, who also leads God's church.

Also... the Amish, the Mennonites... they very much do have as part of their culture, which very much revolves around religion... that you more or less are a expected to, and by this cement that you are a good person of faith and character, that you help others by participating, often regularly, in work-gangs, to stand up at least the basics of barn or house, in what is a shockingly short amount of time, and done in a very high quality manner, with less technologically advanced tools than what is normal for others.

Seriously, if you've never seen this, go look up something like Amish Barn Raising on youtube.

They start with basically just raw materials, assemble large parts of the framing, stand em up with just ropes, set up and join the whole thing, get the outer walls and roof on and doors on, in under a a single work day.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you died on the job you would also get to be buried in the pyramid so that's nice

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

Free funeral expenses, rofl

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Though I'd bet that any that tried arguing against the "sacred privilegness" had some sort of severe physical punishment, perhaps against them directly or perhaps against the people of the region they were from.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

Probably yes?

I do not know as much about how strict of a theocracy Egypt was in that time period, but probably fairly substantially, yes.

I'm listening to Fall of Civilizations right now on ancient egypt and the pharaoh wouldn't allow something as important as direct labor of the pyramids to slaves. Instead, slaves would work to mine the materials but the construction would be done by paid laborers.

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago

So, just like us right now?

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Not so much, ackchually.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago
[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago
[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 13 points 5 days ago

It was all a pyramid scheme, obviously.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)
[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago
[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

Those are the reasons we'll never build anything like that again.

[–] ipitco@lemmybefree.net 6 points 5 days ago (3 children)
[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

While slaves were almost certainly involved, a lot of the labor was likely Corvee Labor. Less like chattel slavery and more like taxes in the form of labor.

[–] ipitco@lemmybefree.net 2 points 4 days ago

Interesting

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago

Contrary to popular belief, it wasn’t slaves who built the pyramids. We know this because archaeologists have located the remains of a purpose-built village for the thousands of workers who built the famous Giza pyramids, nearly 4,500 years ago.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/were-the-egyptian-pyramids-built-by-slaves

While I think the evidence they cite is rather weak it’s well agreed upon that the workers were paid and enjoyed elevated status in society

[–] ipitco@lemmybefree.net 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

but we can't even have that anymore

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

You sure can! Just contact CoreCivic, GEO Group, or MTC for all your legal slavery needs!

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

So not much difference to corporate IT projects

[–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] PopcornPrincess@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago

It took about 30 years to finish because of that.

[–] jaupsinluggies@feddit.uk 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Rockstar [property] developers.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Now, if the game developer Rockstar made them, they'd look like a dick and two balls instead of just 3 pyramid shaped pyramids.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

No remote work obv

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago

They used a nine day work week, and a shitload of middle class tradesmen.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Or forecast projections. Uhhhhh what does that even mean!

[–] derry@midwest.social 2 points 5 days ago

They didn't have Jira, that's how.

[–] an_onanist@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago
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