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A few weeks ago I had to correct someone on Lemmy who was blaming Obama for the "great recession". The comment even had a bunch of up votes.
Other people proceeded to also argue with me that Obama, who was sworn in on Jan 20th 2009, was responsible for the Great recession that started December 2007.
Though Obama did team up with Bush to ensure the banks that caused it were bailed out quickly. This happened sometime around nov or dec 2008, after Obama had been elected but before he was sworn in.
And it was changes made during the Clinton presidency that allowed so many high risk mortgages to exist in the first place.
Not sure if the approval to bundle them together and call them lower risk was a Bush era thing or came from before that.
But even if the timing of the recession had started in 2009, it would have been something Obama inherited from Bush and Clinton. He only controlled his response to it (which wasn't great, as that money was used to allow banks to pay bonuses and buy up foreclosed properties while people laid off for no fault of their own lost their homes).
I honestly don't believe a lot of the anti-DNC content is organic. Like, yeah, we DO have lemmy users who don't like the DNC, in no short supply. But more than that I think their representation and vote power is just botnets by Chinese and Russian trolls/psyops trying to create situations beneficial to their masters.
Generally, people in the USA are tribalistic between the two sides or simply uninformed. To think more than half of a niche but open platform like Lemmy would be against both sides is just improbable.
Lemmy has a much higher than average population of actual socialists, communists, and anarchists. It doesn't blow my mind that they would oppose a neoliberal party that works exclusively for the rich.
There's opposing the neo liberals and then there's blatant fascist propaganda.
Like the fact that Obama used the double tap drone strike, which is unarguably a war crime because it almost always hits first responders.
That's a true and valid criticism.
Making believe that Obama had anything to do with Epstein or that he started Bush's recession is just shifting blame away from the fascist party and helps no one but the fascists.
There may be some bots, but honestly based on some conversations I've had with tankies and fake "leftist" many are some of the stupidest people I've talked to even compared to some brain dead Republicans.
Those bots have to play stupid, otherwise their propaganda isn't consistent enough and they will be found out easily.
I'm not saying there are no bots, but some of them are definitely just that dumb.
I think you mean children. A whole lot of people commenting are literal children with no idea how the world works yet, or at the least very little.
Look at the little guy and his little hat. Precious.
“All hat, no cattle”
What a fucking embarrassment. Christ.
Yeah… but that’s why they hate higher education. These morons have so much money, and they’re still stupid AF.
They're not trying to convince themselves.
Of course it's twofirstnames mullin. Dude is pure scum.
Are we also ignoring that the AG that have Epstein the plea deal was Secretary of Labor under trump?
Alex can acosta deez nuts in his mouth!
Something about a special tree and its own need for fertilization...
This the idiot hick who wanted to fight the Teamsters guy in a committee meeting?
Yeah. Seems like a real genius.
Guys, he was the secret president before he was the real president!
-This jackass
This is what happens when you run as an R only. Oklahomans don't care about who or what is on the ballot. If it has a -R, then that's the ticket!
Denying the truth and rewriting history is tmright out of 1984. All they lack is the enforcement part where if anyone disagrees with the rewrite, they would get black bagged.
Oh, didn't ICE just get more funding then most military
Gotta be like China to compete with China.
Soon there will be dates you cannot speak of. Children working in factories. One political party. (Problem is we don’t export anything.)
That hat sure makes him look extra brokeback.
His idiot redneck parents couldn’t decide on Mark or Wayne. The rotten apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Fkn hillbillies.
I've heard of having two first names. But two first names concatenated to make a first name? I'd say that's new except "Markwayne" wasn't exactly born yesterday.
Why would he admit it? The MAGA base loves the lies. Why tell the truth if that would cause MAGAs to get mad and possibly not vote for you?