Yeah, some people died, but have you thought about all the hurt proud of Indian pilots and so?
That's a really weird take on that situation... or do I somehow read this wrong?
this post was submitted on 27 Jul 2025
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Both can be discussed. In fact many levels of this can be discussed, from the effect on individuals and families involved in the crash, the effect on the owners of the buildings, the effect on the airport, the city, the airline, the country.
Just because they're talking about the effects of a disaster like this on Air India, it doesn't take away from what happened to the individuals. It shows the massive reverberations of an event like this.
The airline still has individuals working for it whose livelihood is potentially affected. There are people making the planes that the airline is purchasing. It's people who live in India who are in mourning over the individuals who died but also shocked at the impact to a symbol of national pride.
If you're not ready to think about the people beyond those directly affected, that's fine. (I'm not being facetious. Everyone processes things in a different way. It's really okay.) But a story like this is inevitably going to be bigger than those individuals and people will talk about different aspects of it. If it wasn't that big, we probably wouldn't be hearing or talking about it at all at this point.
You got me completely wrong
I just find it a very odd take to talk about the hurt feelings of all the other Indian pilots, just because maybe one did a mistake
This just smells too nationalized, because it just isn't obvious, that it was a pilot mistake, and even then, why should all other Indian pilots do the same mistake?
Mistakes are human and happen. Shouldn't, but it just is reality.
Reducing the issue to the image of Indian flights and pilots, was just too fast for me.
I care much more about what actually happened and how we can prevent it in the future.
I don't really care if the pilot was Indian, Russian, Chinese, European or American.
The important part is to find out how to prevent it.
If pilots get overworked, then this is also an issue that needs to be addressed.
But the nationalism in this is just bullshit.
(And I'm not from India)
I think the larger question is if the cutoff was on purpose. They're still not sharing all the cockpit audio. I know nothing about aviation, but everything I've read on this seems to point to an intentional crash. If not, why is the Indian government holding back anything at all?
FAA Advisory:
The report cited a 2018 FAA advisory that urged operators of Boeing models, including the 787, to inspect the locking mechanism on fuel cutoff switches to prevent unintentional movement. The preliminary report noted that Air India had not carried out these inspections as they were not mandatory.*
This was not an issue for this plane. They replaced the entire throttle control module in 2019 and in 2023. Quoted text below is from page 6 of the preliminary report. I have bolded the relevant sentences.
The FAA issued Special Airworthiness Information Bulletin (SAIB) No. NM-18-33 on December 17, 2018, regarding the potential disengagement of the fuel control switch locking feature. This SAIB was issued based on reports from operators of Model 737 airplanes that the fuel control switches were installed with the locking feature disengaged. The airworthiness concern was not considered an unsafe condition that would warrant airworthiness directive (AD) by the FAA. The fuel control switch design, including the locking feature, is similar on various Boeing airplane models including part number 4TL837-3D which is fitted in B787-8 aircraft VT-ANB. As per the information from Air India, the suggested inspections were not carried out as the SAIB was advisory and not mandatory. The scrutiny of maintenance records revealed that the throttle control module was replaced on VT-ANB in 2019 and 2023. However, the reason for the replacement was not linked to the fuel control switch. There has been no defect reported pertaining to the fuel control switch since 2023 on VT-ANB.