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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I guess I'm like a 3 or 4? When asked to visualize an apple or a cow or a campfire or something, I can kinda manage it but only for a split second. I can't just hold an image there.

[–] Judge_Jury@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

You can probably strengthen that with practice if you want. That's how it worked for me

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

I'm a 3 normally but if concentrating I can synthesise a whole world in there. When reading for example, I can concentrate on the language or I can port the book into my internal unreal engine 5 if the writer is visually descriptive enough.

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[–] Salmarez@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Hang on a sec, being a 5 is not the norm? The more you know... 🤯

Head explode, no apple!

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago
[–] ilyenkov@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Complete 5 for me. Also, I have an internal voice, but that voice is just me. Basically just putting thoughts into words so that I can express them, nothing different from whatever the "I" or "self" is.

For the record: I always score very high on tests of spatial memory, those tests where you are supposed to have to rotate objects to find the answer, and stuff like that. I enjoy reading fiction; I like reading more than watching movies for the most part. And in general don't feel like I'm missing out on anything, or that aphantasia gives me any problems thinking at all. I often can't tell who someone is from seeing their face, but I think that's the autism.

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[–] mr_satan@monyet.cc 15 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Besides beiing able to "see" most people have a inner voice that says things "out loud".

Now I'll give you one better, apparently there's levels to this too. One day I surprised my partner by saying that I can "hear" my throughts in any voice I wish, even accent (provided I know such accent).

Like when I remember or imagine anthing I have full visuals and audio. I still lack skill to acually articulate any of these things, so I still suck at pretty much everything I haven't practiced a lot.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

Some people don't have an inner voice?!?!??!? Wait some people can't do any of that? How do they read?

[–] bumblebeehellbringer@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

There's actually quite a variety of what goes on in people's minds. Some people's internal worlds are similar to each others', and some are drastically different. I think of it as one of the cool things about being a social species: people think differently, so we can solve different problems to benefit the group. I think that as a species, some of the worst things happen when we all think alike because people who all think exactly alike are easy to control.

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[–] CatoPosting@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I once played a Tabletop RPG where one of the NPCs was an annoying, opinionated AI who refused to do work beyond what he calculated his level of keep was, but who would freely criticize the plans and opinions of anyone he found it amusing to in a gratingly sarcastic way.

Eventually, I stated having thoughts in his voice commenting on my actions unbidden. It was rather surreal. Truly though, I'm a bit sad it ceased some months after the game ended.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The main narrator voice in Disco Elysium started reading stuff I was reading for a while. tequila-sunset

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[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Poison_Ivy@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

I remember as a kid like 8 years old struggling with this not because I couldn’t visualize “the apple” but because I could but I didnt know how it was possible to visualize something without it being actually there.

Like I could (and still can) remember the feel, shape, taste, weight and smell of “the apple” and even play around with it in my head. Like I could image the sound of it hitting the ground, how itd feel biting into it, cutting it for apple slices etc.

Like all this shit I could not only imagine but feel the speculative sensation of it. Dunno I was a weird and bored kid.

[–] DoghouseCharlie@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I can play entire movies I've made up in my head but even though I know how long an inch is if I try to imagine what an inch by inch cube would look like in my hand my brain goes fuzzy.

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Don't know how related is this, but when I started studying maths seriously I always used Desmos to graph everything, and tried to think how the graph would look before entering the function on it, to a point when I could kinda see the curve on my mind just by looking at the function. It was extremely useful during tests, being able to visualize the curve and have it help me with the problems, and is still useful now that I work in a math intensive environment.

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[–] MiguelParenti@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm level 2 I can only visually imagine emojis for objects.

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[–] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

I’ve always wondered if this is a form of brain damage.

I can’t do much more than a vague impression for a split second.

[–] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

Not only do i see fully visualized things, when I'm alone I visualize ideas so fully I start moving sometimes. It looks really really stupid so I don't do it when others can see me. Yes I have ADHD

[–] Judge_Jury@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think I started around a 3 and made my way to 1 by using it all the time for depressive escapism. 3/10 experience, better than nothing - still not very effective

Fun to have, though.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

i can picture/taste/hear/smell/feel if i try, but it's more like a memory than a truly active sensory experience in high competition with others... unless i force it and am drowsy. my family tells me my recall is insane, though. i think they overestimate it, because my recall for auditory is probably my strongest relative to theirs. i experience that as a mental echo. i use it when i'm trying to remember something distinct and complex for a few minutes... i'll say it out loud to myself so i can hear it and let it echo for my recall.

i had was near sighted (uncorrected for a while) as a kid, so it makes sense to me why that one is not as potent. but my recall and general experience of colors is rich.

also, having a few calm, chill, cerebral psychedelic experiences can open up meta-cognitive functions. kind of a little journey behind the curtain to see the active work being done on the stage to create the show.

[–] KarlBarqs@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I'm baffled that an author, who's entire fucking job is to visualize things in their mind's eye, both doesn't comprehend this and declares himself a 1 on this scale. Man writes fiction novels, how can he not at least consider himself a 2 or 3?

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

Have you considered that he's a dogshit author anyway?

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[–] abc@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

If someone says "think of an apple" out of the blue, I'm a 5.

If someone says "visualize an apple" I'm a 1-3 depending on how focused I am.

I've always thought this is because I have always been a big reader, and as a consequence, a bit of a speed-reader so it is like my brain is constantly set to "important information only" and I have to mentally set it back to "actually visualize it" because I tend to do the same thing when reading. I can be sitting here and read "Purple lightning split the sky and the ring of white roses was illuminated in the flash of light. I stood there, frozen, as I realized some of the roses were flecked with blood." & at normal speed, my mind will be like a strict 4-5. I can 'see' the scene but it isn't really complete or detailed.

Something like "Sekiro felt the rusted blade part the air behind him and twisted his body at the last second, moving out of the blade's path as he swung his hammer upwards into his attacker's chin" is even less likely to be visualized at all but if I read it even a bit slower - or just take a second afterwards, suddenly I become Sasuke in the Forest of Death

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[–] grazing7264@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

I CAN ROTATE A CUBE WITH MY MIND

[–] axont@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I have the opposite problem where I'm a 1 and it seems more real than reality. Is that a problem? I can imagine things happening with full sights and smells more clearly than things that are happening right now. Real life seems distant and confusing.

I am autistic but I'm also prone to escapism.

Is this just dissociation?

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