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[–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 71 points 6 days ago (2 children)

They only took 1000 calls from an Australian hate group to start censoring shit... and every single post on bluesky about calling/contacting them to stop doing this has over 20k notes. They're beyond cooked.

[–] Gwaer@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Does anywhere list numbers to call to do the same thing but about unnecessary censorship?

[–] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

One-tap dial phone numbers:

Master card


Visa


PayPal


Stripe (unconfirmed)


Script:

I’m calling to urge [company name] to immediately end the policy that unfairly targets the adult content industry. I’m also asking that [company name] sit down with stakeholders- specifically sex workers and adult content creators- to develop solutions that ensure equitable access to financial services, create stability, and reduce harm for sex workers.

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Not only 1000 calls. 1000 calls, plus a long standing and often previously acted upon stick-up-the-ass opposition to sex. This is far from the first incident. They were predisposed to the hate group's message, and perhaps chose to use them as scapegoats for their own decisions.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 63 points 6 days ago

Good, fuck 'em.

[–] funkyfarmington@lemmy.world 44 points 6 days ago

Payment processors need to STAY IN THEIR OWN FUCKING LANE!

[–] LoveCanada@lemmy.ca 39 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

~~Mastercard refused to allow people to donate to Julian Assange. Blatant political interference.~~

~~I cut up my Mastercard.~~

Update: After reading the Collective Shout website, I completely changed my mind on what they're doing. I donated to them. The stuff they are campaiging against, specifically the game No Mercy is disgusting, glorifying rape of your mother and sisters? Who the hell thinks thats a "game"? Sick.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It can't be closed, it's been cut too many times.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I'll never forget that opener they did where Dwight starts a fire and they throw that cat through the ceiling. 11/10

[–] LoveCanada@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

Lol. Yeah I closed it. But declaring bankruptcy is more fun.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago (2 children)

A petition is useless. There needs to be an opposing organization whose members do exactly what these other asshats to, and call and write letters to the payment processors threatening boycotts and publicity.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Crypto was supposed to do this but it's too fractured and volatile now.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

It's also too awkward to actually use.

[–] Sequence5666@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Rupay and UPI are good alternatives.

[–] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago

I hope interac uses this opening, I already primarily use them but they don't do credit.

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

FWIW for itch.io the main issue is specifically Stripe this time according to one of their employees.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Stripe fuckin' sucks for that. I've run into them pulling shit over hot sauce and other completely innocuous stuff over the years.

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Hot sauce has a HUGE market, large variety of clients and brands, I'm sure one had the word "sex" or "boob", something like that that made them block it. Pretty sad.

It's funny they want us to BUY games and not pirate, then literally remove any method to purchase it. Just stay on your ship in the seas.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah, a lot of hot sauces have extremely graphic names. Probably more along the lines of nonconsensual backdoor usage.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago

So did did Visa and MasterCard ever stop payments to... like... Infowars? I know PayPal went after them but the credit card networks are a level even higher.

[–] squid64@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 days ago

I mean yeah they shouldn't get involved in that. Just let the law deal with the people buying things that would be illegal. And this is also why cash and crypto (for online purchases) are the best way to buy things. Credit card companies should have no say in what people buy.

[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 2 points 5 days ago

I can't sign it. It tell me my perfectly valid mail address is not valid

[–] PhilMcGraw@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I was always a bit "Why would I bother with crypto instead of fiat?", I just got an answer. Hopefully Steam/big names affected by this adopt crypto payment processors.

[–] CoolMatt@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

Okay I'm stupid.

What's wrong with removing rape and incest games from Steam?

Edit: Thank you all for your answers, I was nervous to ask the question incase I would come off as a troll or ass hole or something and piss everyone off. They are very informative and have given me much to read and think about.

[–] toomanypancakes@piefed.world 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (14 children)

The issue is payment processors unilaterally revoking access to content based on what they (or a conservative hate group with a telephone campaign) personally find morally impermissable.

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[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 15 points 6 days ago

Steam choosing what to host on their platform is fine. A random payment processor forcing their hand due to mild pressure from a fringe Christian group in Australia is not. Because those loonies will classify anything outside of a married couple having missionary sex as obscene and harmful.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago (5 children)

First, they will remove rape and incest, then they will remove all LGBT games, then they will remove all nsfw, and then they will remove all violent games and so on until only the games deemed acceptable by the US evangelicals are left.

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First question: Why is it okay for payment processors to conduct censorship of any kind? Why is it their place to decide what is and is not buyable?

Second question: What's the next thing some right-wing death cult is going to pressure them into censoring? Anything addressing minority rights? Any adult content at all? What about sex toys, birth control drugs, abortion drugs, hormone treatments? What else are they going to cull from society by saying "Get rid of this or we're not going to allow you to do any business in the world?"

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