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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 days ago (5 children)

survival horror action game

Yeah, no.

Hopefully it is just a case of buzz words and not an actual genre description. But the fundamental nature of the Cenobytes is that you can't fight back against them. All you can really do is endure the psychological harm (because you aren't enduring the physical) while sacrificing others and trying an end run to the lament configuration.

Survival Horror/Action inherently involves fighting back. And that undermines so much of what makes Hellraiser Hellraiser (even in a lot of the horrible ones).

I DO think a point and click adventure game would work perfectly. I would... probably not play an Alien Isolation but I do think that would also be a fit (I got my fill of hiding in lockers back with Penumbra/Amnesia). But the moment we have ANY way of fighting back... meh.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The trailer makes it seem like there will be "lesser" demons or creatures we may fight, but if a Cenobite knows we're there, we're fucked.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Which is a problem the movies themselves increasingly did by having cannon fodder cenobites to add action or a sense of hope.

Hellraiser, at its best, is about despair and helplessness where the only way out is to destroy your own humanity.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I mean sure, but you gotta break up the monotony sometimes.

Even the recent Call of Cthulhu game broke up its slow story segments with a few action scenes.

[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 1 points 6 days ago

No reason survival horror has to include fighting back. Plenty of games don't involve anything more in that area than a distraction to keep you alive a moment longer.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Just because you can't kill them doesn't mean you can't fight back against them. Resident Evil 3 had the big dude that you couldn't usually kill chasing you the whole game. Same with 9 and the giant vampire mommy that AFAIK, you can't kill at all except maybe in the finale. But you can slow them down, and there are things other than those to fight. Even Alien Isolation had the flamethrower to make the xeno go away for a bit, but not forever.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Haven't there been many Cthulu Mythos games? I'm sure they're able to find veins of storytelling that have some big reveals, but don't necessarily conclude with successfully defeating the Cenobites.

There could also be secondary antagonists tangentially related to them, right? I thought the antagonist for most of the first Hellraiser was some other kind of disciple that got cast out.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online -1 points 6 days ago

You're right for the wrong reasons. It wouldn't be survival horror because it would be the worst, most vile horror dating sim imaginable. Then Steam would delist it because payment processors caved into a small group of Australian moral crusading nutcases.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

A Movie Based Horror game that ISN'T a multi-player only DBD clone? Intriguing

[–] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 4 points 6 days ago

No way of knowing. Trailers are absolutely the least informative piece of game media regarding how it feels to play a game.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mmm this may be one of the few straight-up horror games that I'm genuinely excited to play. It looks fucked in all the right ways.

I hope Doug Bradley has a cameo of some kind. His voice is too iconic for Pinhead imo.

[–] justsquigglez@leminal.space 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the description of the video, it says they just straight up have him voicing Pinhead, so your wish came true!

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It definitely didn't sound like him

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Well I mean how old is the actor who originally played the part? When you get old your voice changes.

[–] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

First movie was 1987, so at least 38 years later

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Only shows cutscenes, no actual gameplay. Can't tell if you're playing the people or the Cenobytes... Not impressed.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

single-player survival horror action game

It'd be really interesting if you played as the Cenobytes.

I do agree an all cutscene trailer tells use basically nothing. Does some good for tone setting though, I suppose.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

That looks grotesque. I probably won't play it, but it looks cool.

[–] loaf@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh hell yes. It’s got to be better than the F13 game.

(Disclosure: I liked the F13 game in single player bot mode)

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] loaf@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, sorry about that. Friday the 13th ☺️

[–] nop@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Looks bad. Which is good. So that makes me feel bad, which is good!

[–] justsquigglez@leminal.space 4 points 1 week ago

I'm not even that big on horror games but this looks fuckin awesome, can't wait for it to come out!

[–] weaselsrippedmyflesh@lemmy.pt 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Never watched any of the movies, but the gory setting and gameplay look very intriguing.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The OG film is the best, the rest are pretty disposable.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I mean if you like the weird shit, I'd say continue on. They're fun slasher movies, and the reboot from a couple years ago was pretty good imo; the ending was pretty fucked.

[–] HenryDorsett@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I wasn't a big fan of horror movies until later in life, mostly because my parents wouldn't allow slasher type films.

So I ran through the saga. I enjoyed them, though I wouldn't call them art, lol.

I agree, the reboot actually got me more interested in the lore, which I think Barker excels at based on his games Undying and Jericho.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

They're definitely not art (aside from maybe the first one) lol, but they're all still pretty enjoyable if you even tangentially like horror/slasher movies.

Idk why I like them, but I feel like imo it's the equivalent of wanting to listen to some heavy metal or something. Sometimes you just want to watch something super fucked up.