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FAA sees no mechanical issue with 787 Boeing fuel control unit after Air India crash (www.nbcnews.com)

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The head of the Federal Aviation Administration said on Thursday the fatal crash last month of an Air India Boeing BA.N 787 jet does not appear to have been caused by a mechanical issue or inadvertent movement of the fuel control unit or switches.

Reuters reported last week, citing a source, that the cockpit recording on the Air India flight from Ahmedabad to London Gatwick suggested the captain cut fuel to the engines.

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[–] Paragone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I've read that the flight-deck voice-recorder captured something like "why did you shut-off the fuel-lines?"..

Those powerplants need fuel measured in litres-PER-SECOND, not per minute, the way piston-engines do.

( There's a channel on yt by a guy AgenJayZ, he has a turbojet-repair shop in the Praries, in Canada..

he showed, in 1 of his videos, how he tests a single fuel-nozzle, for 1 ( of 5 ) combustor-cans in a jet he was working-on..

28-imperial-gallons/minute, that nozzle sprayed-out..

Times 5, & you've got 140-imperial-gallons/minute pouring into that SINGLE jet-engine..

that's around 635-litres/min, aka 10.5-litres-per-second for that engine..

You CAN'T survive killing the fuel-lines on an airliner, while just after takeoff:

Flamout, & you can't restart before crashing.

Here's a yt-search, & the video I say may be in that list, but it's been a few years..

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jayz+jet+engine+fuel-nozzle+test )

To me the only question left isn't "how", but why:

Did the person on the flight-deck who killed the airliner do it of their unconscious-mind's belligerance, XOR did they do it consciously-intentionally?

( the video, I hope you've seen it, of the gorilla-suit guy walking through some people tossing a ball around, & half the people in the game didn't notice the gorilla-suit guy..

Normal people can't imagine just how much of our lives our unconscious-mind blocks from our awareness, & be "well adjusted"..

I'm not accusing that person's conscious mind of doing it, but their unconscious-mind's intent definitely was involved, either-way. )

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[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world -5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Great, now look at electrical issues.

Blaming the pilot benefits the airline, to avoid claims of poor maintenance, and the airplane maker, to avoid claims of a shitty aircraft.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

It was almost guaranteed to be a suicide by one of the pilots. All of the evidence points that way.

[–] eRac@lemmings.world 15 points 1 week ago

If it was an electrical issue, they wouldn't have been able to just turn them back on, which one of the pilots did.

The two switches were moved to off sequentially with the right amount of gap for a human doing it quickly. One of the pilots then questioned why they were off, and they were then both turned back on individually a short time later.

The possibility the FAA was investigating was whether the latches on the switches may not work, allowing them to be moved unintentionally. This was unlikely due to the timing, but they still had to eliminate it.

[+] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works -6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's looking more and more like the captain had a brain fart and flipped the wrong switches.

[–] darvocet 18 points 1 week ago

The pilot did it on purpose to kill himself. Not the first time a pilot has taken a plane down with him.

No other explanation. I'm a pilot. Cutting fuel off 200ft above the ground is suicide.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's not a flip switch. You have to specifically lift and twist the knobs to activate them. I can't possibly imagine how you could do that twice. They're not even near the rest of the controls, they're back down between the seats.

[–] BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They have to do it every day. It'd be exceedingly rare, but then I'm sure many of us have at least once in our lives put the car in the wrong gear. Yes it takes a little extra effort to turn the switches, but muscle memory might be able to overcome that.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

It's like turning off the ignition, twice. That would not be a brain fart, it'd be a complete brain failure. Like having a stroke, but with actions instead of words.