Canada

Good move from Canada here.

saying that the establishment of a Palestinian state would pose a threat to Israel’s security.

Bruh he's not even trying to hide it anymore. Not that he ever did, but at least he had the sense to only say this stuff in Hebrew.

If they had any balls, they would provide escorts to the freedom flotilla.

There's a lot of comments in this thread, with a LOT of up votes, claiming this is a nothing burger and isn't actually a change in Canadian foreign policy. I understand being annoyed at slow progress that should've happened long ago but claiming this is actually bad for Palestine is disingenuous.

Canada has never recognised a Palestinian government other than the Palestinian Authority (PA) which is an Israeli organisation set up to represent Palestine on behalf of Israel. Here they are clearly starting they have intention to do so which most likely will be the State of Palestine which is a Palestinian organisation that currently receives the most recognition in the United nations general Assembly.

Here they have declared their intent:

"Canada supports a two-state solution"

Here they have declared their current plans regarding recognition:

"Ottawa “will work intensively in all fora to further that end, including through the participation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs at the UN High-Level Conference on a Two-State Solution in New York next week."

Here Isreal have denounced the move by Canada:

"Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu strongly condemned the move,"

Here Hamas has declared support for similar plans for recognition that France has made:

"Hamas described the move as a positive step in the right direction towards justice for the oppressed Palestinian people"

If I were a paranoid person I'd say that the comments declaring Canada's plan to recognise Palestine are futile and meaningless are pro Israeli propaganda planted to look like a pro Palestinian stance. And when it comes to discussions about Israel online, I am very paranoid.

I swear Macron and Carney are friends in real life

I am sorry, but nowhere does he say that.

The "we want a two state solution, but wont recognize a palestinian state until Israel agrees to it" has been the modus operandi of many Genocide supporting countries. They know Israel wont ever agree to it while they reject putting actual pressure on the Zionist project.

This dosent change jack shit. UN memberships have to be approved by all the perminent members of the security council and the US is a perminent member of said council. And in the UN the US always does what Israel tells them to.

If I remember correctly last year there was a vote on palistine becoming a member and the only countires that voted no was the US and Israel but palistine is still not a member because Israel told the US to block it.

"Supporting a two-state solution" is not the same as recognizing Palestine.

Recognizing Palestine is a symbolic gesture at the moment since there's no Palestinian government that controls both the West Bank and Gaza. Generally when countries do this, the recognize the PA as the government of Palestine, but that implies that Gaza isn't part of Palestine (which nobody really thinks) and the West Bank is under occupation, so what does that even mean? I

Recognition of Palestine is just a way to protest Israel and/or the US, nothing more. It's a symbolic act, not a meaningful change in anything on the ground.

What Carney said is more sensible. Everyone reasonable wants a two-state solution, strangely it's only Netanyahu and radical pro-Palestinian groups that want a one state solution. They only differ on which ethnic group should control that one state.

Even then it's premature to talk about a long term peace before there's a ceasefire, but this is mostly about putting pressure on Israel to bring in more humanitarian aid because the US isn't doing that anymore.

Not sure what this conference will accomplish though... is any country going to commit ground troops to Gaza? We all want more humanitarian aid (and eventually a stable peaceful government) in Gaza, but how do you actually make that happen?

Wait, where does he say he's recognising Palestine?

I mean, at some point, you just need to finish the job.

Weak

To be clear, Palestine needs to be recognized, I'm saying this is too weak (and very late) of a response.

Anthony Housefather will be very upset.

The craziest thing about Carney is that he's plotting to defund the CBC by 15%, according to https://thedeepdive.ca/carneys-spending-review-order-makes-cbc-brace-for-15-budget-cut/