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Sorry if abstract meta questions are not your thing. I find it interesting to discover other perspective views.
I was in the shower with the thought, "Is any narcissist self aware of their narcissism?"
Maybe meta awareness of narcissism is like intelligence, beauty, or hearing one's own voice. We may infer information based upon feedback, but lack an objective frame of reference.

On another level, I am aware of how I am abstract in functional thought, like inferencing across many unrelated spaces, and big-picture meaning. I'm aware of my intuition as it relates to others in general, but I'm not aware of my own beauty or intelligence as it contrasts with others.

Are there universal unknowns? Are we always ungrounded in all self perception; only overconfident in our self asserting narratives? What are your thoughts? Are you intelligently beautiful and teflon to the accusation of narcissism? Perhaps charisma is the ultimate superhero mask.

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[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think we ever really know our own traits. We have psychological defense mechanisms that prevent us from thinking that we're the problem.

Awareness helps. If you are reflecting and thinking about how could I have dealt with this situation better? You may be able to find toxic patterns in your own behavior that you previously wrote off as "People always overreact when I tell them to do things!"

A good place to start is the old saying "if you ran into one asshole, he's probably an asshole, if EVERYONE is an asshole, you're probably the asshole."

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

An unexamined life is not worth living. - Socrates

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 3 points 1 week ago

In the immortal words of Socrates, "I drank what?".

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I am fully and wholly believing that basically no one is FULLY self-aware. We can be aware of our follies and wrinkles and foibles all day, but I guarantee you no one has an absolutely correct view of themselves. Ironically, the most self-aware people probably generally have a worse view of themselves than reality for the simple fact that the ones questioning themselves are on the minority side of reality.

In a more literal sense, I guarantee you humans are on the "ignorant" side of reality given that even wave/partical duality is so "unnatural" seeming let alone the concepts of non-locality or what 3+1 dimensions mean...

[–] frostedtrailblazer@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I feel you can be somewhat aware of your own beauty in that many people typical find partners that have a similar level of attractiveness to themselves.

Also, I’ve heard there are some narcissists that are aware of their narcissism. That doesn’t necessarily mean they are trying to subvert it though.

I think you can have a rough idea of your own intelligence in contrast of others, at least within a defined scope. But there are many different types of intelligences out there so it’s a bit of a spectrum. Especially comparing things like textbook knowledge of the field, on the job experience, interdepartmental knowledge, and emotional intelligence.

[–] kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't have a direct answer for you, but this sort of abstract thought is one of my favorite subjects for poetry. So I'm gonna share one on the topic. Sorry lol

Definition and Form

Are we truly only beauteous when we gaze upon the same?

Does a force then oust its element when estranged from former names?

What, at root, is virtue most true, if not the definitive game?

spoilerI'd wager my stake on indefinence, regardless of the claim.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

I don't honestly believe it is possible to ever truly "know yourself", so I would say all traits are unknowable.

The reason I say this is because one doesn't ever know how they will react in any given situation until it happens. One can train, one can prepare, but until they are in an exact situation with exact circumstances one cannot declare with certainty what they will do.

I do not believe in free will as well, so that is another point against "knowing yourself" for me as all "you" are is an observer to the experiences that aren't controllable in the first place.

That is not to say that one cannot predict with some accuracy how they will behave, but with so many unknown factors involved with simply existing (like the fact that we forget things that happened and remember things that didn't; Can be impacted by unknown emotional states; etc), I do not believe anyone can be certain of themselves even with detailed notes and 3rd party help.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 1 points 1 week ago

Is the "soul" an ephemeral entity that becomes detached and goes somewhere else, or is it a byproduct of our brains and it dies with us. I believe the second one is much, much more likely. But there's no way to know until I finally die. I really hope I'm right, it eternity sounds like its own kind of hell no matter where you are.