According to the sources in the Wikipedia article, in the US at least, the term de-banking wasn't even in popular use until some right-wing nutjobs started claiming that the government was using it to shut down conservative "tech" companies, and then latched onto by people like Joe Rogan and Elon Musk to scam people into replacing their bank accounts with crypto currency.
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I'm completely anti-crypto but that's not the topic.
This is a warning about an angle of attack against people. I'm not advocating a product. My suggestions are to make sure you have trustworthy, legal access to multiple addresses should your housing become unstable, and to have diversified access to real banking services through both traditional banks and credit unions.
I'm in the United States so I read the sections relevant to the United States. I'm just trying to find where this claim of people with a mental health diagnosis needing multiple addresses due to the new EO comes in. That would impact me personally.
It isn't a "claim that you need multiple addresses." Think critically about the problem. A person who has MH diagnosis or addiction diagnosis, and is also at risk of de-banking due to address instability needs to have a legal address they can prove access to. Proving you reside at an address is how you stop the process of de-banking. For people who are housing unstable, it is wise to have backup plans including two addresses.
Oh I see, I was panicking a bit because I thought you were stating that it was a part of the EO and I couldn't find any references to support it. I don't really have a backup address since I live with my parents at the moment (dealing with said MH diagnosis). Thank you for taking the time to respond OP.
Seems like a good time to start planning out that backup address, since you're housed and safe right now (I assume.) Hope your luck is better than mine, but much of this information I gained from the experience of resorting to backup-backup-backup plans. Good place to start is figuring out the cheapest place you could get a monthly lease in the areas you are familiar with. One of my friends just happened to have that info handy when I almost became homeless a few years ago, and being able to very quickly act on that info ended up saving me a few rough weeks.
Sounds like a rough spot, I'm glad things worked out for you.
this entire thread is filled with drumpf apologists and sanewashers
Congrats lemmy, you lost the war with fascism through inattention and allowed yourself to be co-opted
EVEN THOUGH you had clear evidence from 4chan and reddit how fascism grows on online forums through deliberate discussion manipulation
I have reported over 30 incidents of social media sliding from inauthentic accounts and all it did was get be banned for 2 days for being 'rude'.
You get what you fucking deserve and I'm going to enjoy watching your collapse
it is pretty wild dude but I think some of the people resorting to sane washing are burned out by all the cable news / huff post / raw story kayfabe
they see somebody pointing at a threat and instead of add that to their mental load, they'd rather shuffle it aside as panic bait or whatever
i kinda get it
my hope is that if their banks actually threaten them with this they remember "oh yeah, i've heard of this, it has something to do with my address getting challenged" and then maybe they can figure it out in time? then they don't have to deal with getting labelled like this and losing services.
The two friends that I had that were de-banked didn't get any notice, they just got a check mailed to their previous address and only one of them managed to recover it
Holy shit.
To think I was envious of America when I was young.
Hahaha right? They sold the lie so well. But it's so easy to do when you control the majority of the world's media, whether it's news, radio, television, cinema, or online streaming.
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To be honest, this shift in our politics has been brutally quick and more federally far reaching than anything that happened while I was growing up. People used to be able to just exist. Camp in parks, sleep on benches, etc. This authoritarianism is... Somewhat new.
It started in earnest under Regan. It’s just been difficult to see where all those changes would lead until all at once it smacked us in the face.
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It's only been quick if you just started paying attention. This is the end result of decades of work by the GOP.
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I mean tresspass laws designed to prevent newly freed black people from "just existing" go back to 1865.
Yeah, I was going to say something similar. The “it’s now illegal to [x] while black” memes are because the BIPOC community has known this for a long time now. Standing while black, walking while black, jogging while black, eating while black, listening to music while black, sleeping while black, etc… All of these are things that people have been attacked by cops for doing, for literal generations.
It’s not new; it’s just more visible. And it has finally become so overt that non-BIPOC people have started to feel the same pressure that BIPOC people have dealt with since the country was founded.
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Those were different times. I remember how people who travelled there talked about how friendly everybody was. And everything was cheap, service was great and life was easy. Obviously those were skewed perceptions by tourists, but still. Nobody says things like that any more.
For all other Europeans out there, avoiding this situation is another thing the EU did for us.
For the Americans, write to your representatives demanding the same rights.
Excluding people from having a bank account in 2025 is basically condemning them to ostracism even without sending them to concentration camps.
I've long held the belief that the US postal service should also provide basic banking services too in the US, that way no one can be denied a bank account.
One of the things Bernie Sanders ran on. He wanted to do that and ton more good things for us little people. But the Democrats rather have fascism under Trump then progressive policies.
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Did you independently reinvent https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Savings_System or did you know about the history?
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I came into this thread thinking that the term de-banking was something like de-google and I was eager to find some opensource service tô get rid of the dependency of banks all together.
Boy was I wrong. /s
Good advice though!
I was eager to find some opensource service tô get rid of the dependency of banks all together.
Credit unions
Indeed, part of protecting yourself is diversifying where you keep your money (even if you don't have a lot), and part of that answer is credit unions. Don't just assume in institution is okay just because they are a CU though, plenty of scum CUs.
Back when I vandwelled, I was able to set up a "declaration of domicile" so my legal address was at a mail forwarding center. You can have mail forwarded to a local post office box, or to a different address (if you're crashing at a friend's house or something.)
It's a useful option when you have to move around a lot, since if you move you don't have to change your address - just change where your mail gets forwarded to.
It does require paying for a PO Box, but IMO it's worth it.
Though I recommend actually knowing something about the town or city of the forwarding center you use. I once had a job interviewer be from the same town as the one on my license, and had to bullshit as if I actually knew the place (and didn't merely drive through it on a freeway a couple times.)
Unfortunately there are systems that will reject PO boxes - credit applications, mortgage and loan applications. It's increasing and I think they're catching wind that nomads do it, so they challenge for a "physical address" which of course must match your credit file. This is a nice way to shit on people who are trying to get out of transitional housing too, since they can easily spot group homes and halfway houses.
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Do you have a source for ANY of this drivel?
I was homeless for years, and have worked with homeless addicts for the last 10 years. Never in my life have I heard of these things happening for the reasons you give. Hell even to this day I don’t update a bank with my new address.
Could you provide a reliable source for more information about this actually happening to real people en masse? I have no doubt it’s happened to someone somewhere, but would be surprised if this was a real problem and I wasn’t aware.
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This is 100% going to be used against trans people, especially the mental illness and danger parts (remember all the cross dressing is pedophilia stuff that republicans were pushing)
I hope for the safety of all LGBTQ people in the US right now, especially the trans people. You all deserve to live unbothered, I wish it were that easy.
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And now I actually want and am rooting for armed homeless to commit acts on violence on government stooges who attempt to carry out this order. Time to start building guns for the homeless.
Now the message on Tom Morello's guitar makes sense ("Arm the homeless").
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Disappointing but not surprising that the chosen solution to increasing swaths of the population no longer being supported by our economy is concentration camps. I honestly don't think it's that far fetched that the endgame here is they literally kill us all while acting like it's our own fault, and the America of the future is just robots and genetic clones of billionaires.
They want you using banks BC they can control your money flows
Cash was always king for a reason and plebs were too eager to give it up.
God forbid peasants do a thing that hurts daddy
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