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Sorry again for changing the headline but wanted the interesting part out again. Full video in the story.

OG headline: ‘I never went to that island’: Trump says of Epstein’s underage getaway and tells reporters to talk about Bill Clinton

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[–] JuBe@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I saw someone reported this post for changing the title of the article. Nevertheless, in this case, the post title that was used appears to be more objective, more informative, less of a clickbait title than the original, and the author of the post was upfront about this modification from the outset, so I’m going to let it stand.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If there’s any way I can be more transparent about it or a better way to go about it I’m happy to oblige. Article titles nowadays just aren’t forthcoming. Intentionally so to get people to click.

I just wanna make sure the important bit is surfaced.

[–] JuBe@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Appreciate the effort!

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 67 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Well now we know what the Maxwell "testimony" is going to be:

Trump was never there, but Clinton was there every weekend.

Annnnd pardoned.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“Epstein and I were about to abduct someone when Trump swooped in with a golden greatsword and his 6’5” 220lb frame and threatened to cut us down. He was truly an American hero that day.”

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No mention of his 0% body fat?

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s implied that he has -1000% body fat.

Quite literally body fat turns itself into muscle on his body.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would say "shit we got President Kingpin", but Wilson Fisk arguably would be good at things.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

Fisk never dreamed he could get away with what Trump has.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

They'll spin it as "now she's ready to talk!"

But the truth is she's already talked, and said multiple times she has nothing else she hasn't said.

The reason she never got anything for info, is she's already lied and willing to say anything to be released.

I fully expect her to "exonorate" trump, blame all his enemies, get released...

And dead almost immediately so nothing else can be said.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So the obvious fix is that they're going to meet with Maxwell and secure her false testimony in exchange for a pardon, but at this point, no one's going to believe her if she says Trump was never involved. If she's smart, and I hope she is, she realizes that a pardon with Trump still in power is worthless. There's no way they'd let a loose end like her live out her days, too much of a risk. In that case the best option would be to play along and act like that's what you're going to do, get in the hot seat in front of Congress, swear on a book, then tell the absolute uncut truth about EVERYTHING that Trump, and any other rich politicians, then explain that her life is in danger and that Trump wants her dead because of what she knows, and that she has even more info.

Drop that fucking bombshell in front of Congress and the whole world, and she may actually come out of things a free woman who's somewhat redeemed herself, and completely fucked over a lot of shitty human beings. If she plays ball with Trump, no one will believe her, and she'll just end up suicided in a few months. I'm sure she's well aware of the likely scenarios. You can't run and hide from a psychopath who's in charge of the best military and equipment in the world. You have to kill the king in front of his own court.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

She should declare she has documents and evidence on a deadman switch.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

She must. If she didn't she'd be dead already.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

no one’s going to believe her

Give the Wingnut Wurlitzer a few weeks to work the crowd.

Plenty of people scoffed at QAnon and the MIA/POW guys or Sovereign Citizens or Scientologists in the beginning. But enough time and memes and AM Radio Heads screaming at their audiences. Now its just a big part of the received wisdom of the crowd. In the wrong group, you're weird if you don't believe their dogma.

If she plays ball with Trump, no one will believe her, and she’ll just end up suicided in a few months.

If she plays ball with Trump, a bunch of the WSJ Trump-Epstein articles go away and we get back to calling Columbia students antisemitic for protesting genocide.

[–] khornechips@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wait, was the POW/MIA thing some kind of conspiracy? My dad always flew one of those when I was a kid. He was also a card carrying NRA member so it wouldn’t be that shocking.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yes the POW/MIA thing has it's origins in a conspiracy theory that the US knew about thousands of American military members that were alive and in POW camps in Vietnam, but left them behind and lied about it.

That is the origin. I'm sure a lot of people with the flags just think it's a remembrance thing though.

[–] QueensGuyaneseMoronTrumper@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What the fuck! I wanna read about this! Any sources outside Wikipedia?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Wait, was the POW/MIA thing some kind of conspiracy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_POW/MIA_issue

Considerable speculation and investigation have been devoted to a hypothesis that a significant number of missing U.S. service members from the Vietnam War were captured as prisoners of war by communist forces and kept as live prisoners after U.S. involvement in the war concluded in 1973. A vocal group of POW/MIA activists has maintained that there has been a concerted conspiracy by the Vietnamese and U.S. governments since then to hide the existence of these prisoners. The U.S. government has steadfastly denied that prisoners were left behind or that any effort has been made to cover up their existence. Popular culture has reflected the "live prisoners" theory, such as in the 1985 film Rambo: First Blood Part II. Several congressional investigations have looked into the issue, culminating with the largest and most thorough, the United States Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs of 1991–93, which found "no compelling evidence that proves that any American remains alive in captivity in Southeast Asia."

It was Ross Perot's flagship issue during the early 80s

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

I just can't imagine that she will choose that course of action as the safest.

Additionally, I don't really think testimony and a pardon is going to satisfy his base. Strange though it may be, given all the other shit we've seen, this particular turd just won't seem to flush.

Also, I don't think the republicans would be silly enough to give her that opportunity. Even if she doesn't intentionally fuck it up she might still fuck it up.

If I were her, I would just tell them to set her up in a beach front condo in some tropical locale and they can post "security" to make sure she doesn't publish her memoirs and they can have paparazzi take photos of her sunbathing to show she's alive if that's still a thing and she can stay like that till Trump is dead in the ground.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“You know, you should focus on Clinton. You should focus on the president of Harvard, the former president of Harvard. He should focus on some of the hedge fund guys — I’ll give you a list,” Trump said to the report’s query.

A list, you say? And where did you get this list you will give us? From an Epstein client list perhaps? One that doesn't exist but which1000s of FBI guys have searched through looking for references to you. A list that you are not on, but which was created, according to you, by Clinton, Biden, and Obama to smear you? That list?

[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No no, you misunderstand, Trump gives the list he himself created.

He wants those people not just removed from his own life but also wishes them to endure demeaning and progressively worsening life altering events.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Nah, this is more stochastic violence. "Will nobody rid me of this turbulent college president" vibes.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

pleaaase keep bringing up clinton. you both should be investigated for the same reasons

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

That’s the fun part about revealing Clinton. You can’t say it’s a hoax and fake then simultaneously be like “well Clinton is in the files!” without indicting yourself.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Dear Trumpy,

Yes, Bill Clinton is a piece of shit and sex pest at best. We have no problems with Billie Clinton being investigated.

Sincerely, Leftists

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's always been so weird when he does that. No one on the left is out here worshiping Biden or Bill or Hillary.. I mean.. why would we? Sure, you may like one of them more than the other or whatever but, it's not like a cult of personality situation. But Trump can't see past his ego.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

But Trump can’t see past his ego.

nor can his followers.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I just feel that the same amount of congressional SHIT FITS should apply to a pedophile that applied to Bill getting a blowie.

They fucking shut down government over that silly shit. Meanwhile the R's are apparently happy to help the pedo.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 15 points 1 week ago

And everyone should look at Clinton instead

[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

"I'm allowed to" is something a child mind thinks and says when it feels it needs to seek permission.

Of course you're allowed to. Pardons are granted in the Constitution. Speak with authority and command in your position. Not like a weak little bitch who thinks "I'm allowed to.".

Everyone knows the toddler president is a weak, pathetic fool. Only someone who is a more weak and pathetic fool could be his supporter or sycophant.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If trump has even an iota of brainpower:

No pardon. The List that doesn't exist suddenly comes out and it is mostly prominent democrats outside of a few sacrificial lamb republicans. don jr would be a great choice since trump hates his guts even more than we do but it gives a reason for why he would have been hesitant to share it. It becomes vulnerability and compassion as an excuse for corruption. And he pardons don jr when he remembers to.

But what will actually happen is maxwell gets the pardon and the list is just clinton and Obama a hundred times, in sharpie.

[–] FoolHen@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

In sharpie 🤣 you're most likely right, I hate this timeline

[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80

Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac

Here's the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/

—————————other Epstein Information

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.

Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo

Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Epstein and Israel both hired lawyer Alan Dershowitz, who says he's building 'legal dream team' to defend Israel in court and on internationally | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid

Epstein Docs: https://ia600705.us.archive.org/21/items/epsteindocs/

Epstein Bribes/Payments: 1 BILLION+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7IrEi-ybzs

—————————other Trump information:

Here's trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY

Trump's promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”

Trump's modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/

A good summary of Trump-Epstein timeline: https://thepresidential.medium.com/we-have-been-gaslit-about-donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-for-four-years-fbda67c20f75

• ⁠Much of this info can also be found on: https://theepsteindocs.com/

Feel free to do your part and spread this info around so it is never “lost”.

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Load up on guns, bring your friends.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago

It's fun to lose and pretend.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I really wish Clinton would have been forced to resign in 1996.

Politicians should be disposable when they are found to be terrible people that committed bad acts. Whenever we find serious dirt on them they should be drummed out of fucking town. In contrast to, you know, the current thing which is to elect a fucking convicted felon and admitted sexual predator president because he's some kind of special politician we have to allow to continue to be a completely unaccountable filthy fucking shit pig for some reason.

We are looking at all of you sick fucks. Fuck sides, if you did something wrong, you will be punished.

[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I do love the potential of Trump throwing a deal at Maxwell to name Clinton in the Epstein files to finally 'get' the Clintons, only to them have it blow up in his face if Clinton then turned around and named Trump as being there as well. I don't believe either will happen but it's a fun thought. You just know if Bill is going down he's taking everybody with him.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Do it you corrupt incompetent fuck

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Monica Lewinsky was 22 years old, an adult, when she sucked Bill Clinton's cock. Who the fuck cares?

Trump and the Republicans rape children.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 week ago

“I wasn’t even on that plane. And those pictures of me and my boy, Jeff, ahem, I mean, that guy I never met… They were all doctored by the Obama administration back in the 90s. That’s how deep this conspiracy against me runs!”

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

LOL, he's coming off so innocent.

[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are also allowed to shit on the floor, pick it up with your bare hands and smear it all over your face and hair. I’m not saying that he shouldn’t do it (That’s almost a surefire way to get him to actually follow through with something), but it might not be the best look.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I mean....this is the tribe that rubs shit in their hair that we are talking about, though:

https://driftglass.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-grand-dragon-of-tribe-that-rubs.html

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 3 points 1 week ago

I imagine Trump with a hundred arms, all pointing their tiny hands in a different direction.

[–] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago

How about the clintons and trump get to share a cell? That would be great. Also give them only 1 meal so they start fighting