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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

hahah the only reason he doesnt want to call it a bus is because 'it has more headroom than a bus'.

what the hell is wrong with calling it a bus??

[–] MouldyCat@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Leader of the Liberal Democrat opposition on Liverpool City Council Carl Cashman said: "It's embarrassing that we've got a bendy bus, we need a tram."

Can anyone enlighten me on the advantages of a tram over a bus? I have never understood the appeal. The new modern ones can look kind of cool, but I don't see any practical advantages over a bus. Buses are much more flexible in the routes they take if any changes should be required in future, while trams have huge upfront costs for digging up roads to lay the tracks. It's not like councils have so much money they don't know what to spend it on, so is there some hidden advantage to trams I'm not seeing?

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

Trams can generally hold more passengers per vehicle, and are more energy efficient (because steel rails are much lower resistance than rubber tyres on asphalt). They're also much easier to electrify (battery buses having lots of drawbacks, and overhead line driven trolleybuses being a complex and niche technology which nobody wants to deal with).

Not an inherent advantage, but the nature of them means that they often have much larger segments of exclusive right of way (i.e. tracks which aren't shared with road). Whilst there's nothing stopping you building loads of grade separated bus lanes, politically and practically it's much harder to do.

There's also an argument that people are more likely to use a tram than a bus just because they like them better, and that the presence of the tracks makes it easier for people to visualise the routes making the journeys easier to navigate.

The downsides are that you have to build a load of expensive infrastructure up front, and that they're more vulnerable to disruption such as obstructions on the track or road/line closures which they can't route around.

trams require physical infrastructure above and beyond the bus.. its seems like hes got an ulterior motive that depends on that infrastructure.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Bus implies a device meant to help poor people.

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 5 points 1 week ago

The manufacturer calls it a bus. It looks like a bus. It's a bus.

What a weird hill to die on.

Looks like a very nice bus, anyway.

He added: "We want some dedicated road space – not for the whole route, because that causes difficulties for cars, but we want it to have some space where it can make rapid progress and shorten the time people spend on public transport."

We've got a word for that too. It's a "bus lane". Should probably have some of those anyway, bendy-buses or otherwise.

[–] Tweak@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago

Rotheram added: "It doesn't feel like a bus inside because a bus doesn't have the headroom.

Tell me you don't take buses without telling me you don't take buses.

[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If you take the tyres off and put it on rails, it's a tram.

Gino D'Acampo: "If my Grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A-RfHC91Ewc&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD