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[–] tal@lemmy.today 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Germany and the US are gonna be pretty unhappy if that happens. Both subsidized domestic Intel fabs.

I mean, don't get me wrong, Intel's 13th and 14th gens were a fiasco, and they gotta get serious about putting out reliable product, but those countries are gonna want fabs, and I don't think that they're gonna want to settle for single-sourcing from TMSC.

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Well, it sounds like they already put the Germany plans on hold late last year. I don't know how that works financially between Intel and Germany.

https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/intel-hits-pause-on-chip-fabs-in-germany-and-poland-amid-financial-crisis/

Intel hits pause on chip fabs in Germany and Poland amid financial crisis

Intel has paused plans for new chip factories in Germany and Poland following its disastrous second quarter financial results.

I don't see anything about them terminating the US fab construction, but they're seeing large layoffs:

https://www.crn.com/news/components-peripherals/2025/intel-s-workforce-to-shrink-by-nearly-a-third-by-year-s-end

Intel’s Workforce To Shrink By Nearly A Third By Year’s End

EDIT: Apparently the Germany fab is now cancelled, not just paused.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/disappointment-germany-intel-pulls-plug-104445292.html

Disappointment in Germany after Intel pulls plug on chip factory

Efforts to boost semiconductor manufacturing in Europe have suffered a major blow after US chipmaker Intel abandoned its plans for a multibillion-euro chip plant in eastern Germany.

"The announcement is not good news for Europe," said Reiner Haseloff, the premier of the state of Saxony-Anhalt, which was due to house Intel's chip factory in Magdeburg.

Intel's decision, announced on Thursday, had been expected, Haseloff said, after months of bad news at the company.

[–] ItWasTheDNS@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

They pushed the Ohio fab back, so not cancelled, but originally when the canceled Germany, Oregon and Israel they claimed they were doing so to focus on Ohio. Then they delayed Ohio. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s not further delayed or just canceled.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Why in God's name was Germany betting on Intel, currently the Boeing of chip makers?

I know that there is more involved than opinions of fanboys but at this point it's been common knowledge for years that Intel has been making one fuckup after another, suffering from the "we're at the top, now let's just cash in and not give shits" attitude that so many other companies have had.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Afaik they didn't get anything from Germany, because they didn't even start construction. Wonder whther we'll try to persuade GF or Samsung next (or TSMC to invest more).

[–] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 week ago

They need to get rid of this guy.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Not sure Intel will survive the next 5-10 years. But they definitely won't without leadership that pushes for new, aspirational products vs. crouching into a defensive posture.

They desperately need moonshot leaders and stories.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Moore's law has already been dead for YEARS. Silly headline.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I have a feeling Lip-Bu Tan is going to end Intel.

Whatever way you look at it, Intel would need to give customers some incentives to use their foundry services (this is on top of being competitive). They can't expect the same level of return enjoyed by TSMC.