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[โ€“] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's not local? It's not private. Period. "End-to-End Encrypted" LOL except they're the other "end". That's just HTTPS.

[โ€“] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Does Andy the bootlicker think that proton paying customers are idiots?

Asking for a friend

Jfc... Their drive can't compete with Filen. Their VPN can't compete with mullvad at least privacy wise.

Email and calc prolly better than competition.

Bitwarden makes better password manager.

There are a ton of crypto wallets.

Now they add llm with a trust me bro... Their marketing department thinks the users are idiots. All around classic corpo behaviour. Fuck em

[โ€“] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

On the other hand, Unlimited is 10โ‚ฌ a month, which is OK-ish for the suite if you need most of them.

Mail+password manager+unlimited aliases (simile login) is already 10 when picking other reputable private services (without the limitations of the free tiers). So VPN and drive are "free".

I'm moving away to another service though. I don't care they are in continental Europe, those Trump praises were concerning.

[โ€“] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 week ago

They do have all around value proposition not going to dispute that but putting all of your eggs in one basket is literally repeating Google/apple mistake.

Never gain, decentralized is the only for me forward.

[โ€“] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wild that you have downvotes when you're absolutely 100% correct

[โ€“] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

I think people reading just didnโ€™t understand the critique and were like โ€œTOO MANY WORDS Y U SAY IT BADโ€

[โ€“] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I like how they're doing shit like this and the bitcoin wallet (that last I checked didn't even support lightning) instead of, you know, improving stuff people actually care about.

[โ€“] Goten@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago

and which stuff? i honestly donk know

[โ€“] abacabadabacaba 13 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Why do all of them fail this question?

[โ€“] Goten@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago

honestly because its a retarded 32 billion model while ecen mistrals models are about 5 to 10 times the size and i still rate them bad.

lumo is nice, but just a stupid thing fir me, atleast for now.

still its the best privacy preserving clould ai.

[โ€“] FaceDeer@fedia.io 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because LLMs see tokens, not letters or words. It's like showing a human a strawberry and asking them how many atoms it contains.

[โ€“] noxypaws@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sounds like a genuine shortcoming of the technology as it's being ~~presented to~~ forced on the public

[โ€“] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

An LLM also can't bake a cake, decorate a Christmas tree, or bench-press 100kg.

Just understand what LLMs are good at, use them for that, and don't throw your hands up and declare it useless because it can't magically do something it was never designed to do in the first place.

[โ€“] noxypaws@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

but it's being sold as if it IS capable of that.

[โ€“] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've never seen anyone advertising an LLM as being good at spelling bees. The only time I ever see this spelling thing come up is when people are making fun of it.

[โ€“] yuri@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

theyโ€™re presented as general knowledge chatbots at the very least, and i know iโ€™d consider spelling pretty general knowledge.

the way i see it you can either acknowledge the โ€œstrawberry questionโ€ as a genuine failing of most every publicly accessible LLM, or you can acknowledge that LLMs are only ever actually correct by pure chance. sometimes itโ€™s a REALLY GOOD chance, but at the end of the day itโ€™s still always a variable that you canโ€™t actually control.

[โ€“] Goten@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

then use open ai o4 pro for 280 โ‚ฌ per month, grok 4 heavy and gemini 2.5 pro or something.

if you want to critisise ai then you must also look at the smartest ai we have, not write about the free little retard models.

[โ€“] yuri@pawb.social 1 points 2 days ago

or like, not waste inordinate amounts of money for some shit i donโ€™t want/need?

[โ€“] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You see a false dichotomy.

I see someone pounding away at a ball of yarn with a hammer and complaining that it's not as good a knitting implement as they imagined.

[โ€“] yuri@pawb.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

in this thread iโ€™ve only seen complaints about the implementation, no one has even implied LLMโ€™s are useless.

[โ€“] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 week ago

tbh people call them useless all the time but they also cherry pick their weakness.

it is a tool, it has utility. kinda like crypto although grifters seem to always soil promising tech. but in 20 years it will all settle and we will be enslaved, anyways.

[โ€“] Tweak@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

You have someone complaining about what people selling AI say it can do, when it can't do that. You see people complaining that AI can't do things, when it can do other things.

You need to try and digest what people are saying better rather than just being contrarian.

[โ€“] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So close

Edit': lol

[โ€“] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Looks like Lumo had too much catnip.

[โ€“] soapysage@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[โ€“] huppakee@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago

It will generate a new answer in every new chat, it has no knowledge of itself. You can also easily manipulate what it answers by framing your question, if you ask 'where is the i in strawberry' or 'why do you spell strawberry with a single i' it will spit out something much more wrong than when you ask it 'is there an i in strawberry'. This is increasingly true for complicated questions like 'i am about to get fired because i don't spell strawberry right, what can i do to perform better at driving a taxi for my employer who is an accountant tied up in a scandal', but because there usually aren't contradictions in a question the AI isn't seen as dumb and unintelligent but as wise and all knowing. But again, it doesn't know anything it just puts words that statistically fit well together next to each other - which can be really useful if you understand its limits.