Also funny how psychological projection was formalized as a concept by Freud. Have anything to tell us, Sigmund?
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Mathematicians: get novel ideas named after themselves.
Freud: No, no, it was totally that other guy.
He did get Freudian Slip named after him though.
Everyone should reread the story. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Oedipus-Greek-mythology
Dude didn't know and was trying to be a great guy.
This source says he blinded himself, but did not kill himself. His mother killed herself though
yeah he shows up later in Antimoney to basically goof it up and be like "oh yeah nah this whole family is fucked because of some fucked shit. anyway, i'm here to be both wise and a goofass"
Assuming autocorrect got you, but for anyone that is trying to look up more info: the play name is Antigone.
Thanks!
I gonna be honest, its much more advisable to read some form of summary, because the original text is boring as hell, written in a very hard to understand style and is all in all a complete shithole.
We read this in school in like the 7th grade. When the teacher read out something to the tune of "I've soiled the field from which I had sprung" I gave a little laugh and the teacher stopped and asked the class if anyone else knew what that meant. Not a single other kid had a clue, or at least didn't want to answer.
Post-Nut Clarity strikes again
Oh man it just sucks when you "accidentally" have sex with your mom.
Also known as a Freudian slip.
she said to say hi to her kid so im saying hi.
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This is like Orwell who devoted his life as a (anarchist leaning) democratic socialist to fight authoritarianism.
And now authoritarian things are called “Orwellian”.
But it makes some sense tho, isn't it Orwellian because it matches the horrific dystopian shit he predicted in his books?
Some of it was experience. The overarching theme of 1984 was the inevitable betrayal, which was a concept he grappled with most of his life.
Well I think most of his life is a bit much. I think specifically it’s his experience when he fought in Catalonia for the anti-authoritarian Marxists (POUM) having the Stalin backed communists betray POUM and kill and imprison his comrades.
It definitely fuelled a few decades of his writing.
I wish I was smart enough to understand what you guys are ~~arguing about~~ discussing
How do these things seem to get turned around? Oedipus, jack of all trades, blood is thicker than water, curiosity killed the cat… so many phrases get truncated and used to mean the opposite of what they originally intended.
Pulling oneself by one's bootstraps used to signify the absurdity of getting out of a difficult situation all on your own.
Per this comment I found it seems that "Blood is thicker than water" didn't change its meaning.
https://www.reddit.com/r/linguistics/comments/37a4lg/comment/crl1yly/
Adding to this to say "Jack of all trades" also hasn't changed its meaning. The "But master of none" seems to be a latter addition, and doesn't really negate the original meaning of "being capable in a lot of trades". Additionally, there is some belief that there is a following third part "but oftentimes better than a master of one" rehighlighting the value of being skilled in multiple "trades".
Source - Wiki Jack of all trades
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I can see it easily, except for Oedipus. They're all about subverting the initial phrase but when people know the whole thing, they just shorten it to the start of the phrase.
New people come in, hearing only the start of the phrase and assume incorrectly what it's referring to before passing that along.
This makes sense. Common usage shortened it because everyone knows it, but then it begins to be misunderstood and then misused because the shortened version makes more sense.
How do these things seem to get turned around?
Time basically.
Some of it is because of Irony. Similar to how people in the 80/90s use the word "Bad" to mean "Really Good", other words changed meaning because of ironic usage.
Egregious used to mean "rising above the flock, exceptional, distinguished." People kept using it ironically so much that it now means exceptionally bad or distinguished by being particularly bad.
Other words have had a more gradual evolution to their opposites, like "Nice". It originally meant foolish or weak. During the middle ages it came to mean shy, reserved, or fastidious, but those qualities were still considered 'weak'. In the late 1700s society began to see merit in those qualities and so being 'nice' was no longer a foolish or bad thing to be.
Same thing with phrases and idioms. Hundreds of years can have a weird effect on language.
curiosity killed the cat but satisfaction brought it back
all of those are (close to) the original phrase, they did not get truncated, they got amended later. Now why someone would try to turn their meanings around that way is still a good question
Honestly I don't see why it'd matter what the "original" phrase is (except for Oedipus but that's an entire story). Just because it's the original doesn't make it more true.
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On the other hand, any mythological stories about sons who schutpped Mom and had no regrets? Pretty sure that's not a thing.
Zeus has entered the chat
I always said that my ignorance of Greek mythology was my Sword of Achilles
Well there's the biblical story of Lot and his two daughters getting him drunk so they can get pregnant with his seed:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=genesis+19%3A30-38&version=NIV
We're talking about mythology here.
Everyone knows the Bible is all literally true.
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eats fortune cookie
"You will have sex with your mother"
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Reminds me of Diogenes syndrome.
Fuck everyone's mother including his own?
"Freud's ideas of castration anxiety and penis envy refer to the differences of the sexes in their experience of the Oedipus complex."
https://wiki.froth.zone/wiki/Oedipus_complex
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