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So this is probably quite the specific question that might be pretty unusual but I guess it's probably still relatable to get rejected from people (even if I don't get answers I think it's just good for me to write this off my chest).

I 22/male am very lost in life due to my depression and anxiety.

I was searching for a place I belong for pretty much my whole life. Early on I started becoming very fascinated with America, their people and the culture. Some might argue it's just because American media is so influencial but I admired the country so much that I wanted to know and learn everything about the country and become as American as possible.

By doing that I thought Reddit is a good place to ask questions about America and learn from people who are directly from there. After very good initial experiences I sadly encountered strong hate towards me about two years ago (probably because I was asking too deep questions and haven't thought through them enough so they might've sounded ignorant/judgemental which was not my intention and I think it was a misunderstanding. [If u want further context an example would be: I asked many questions about positive topics that I admired, but during my research I also stumbled upon things people said about America that might be more negative/critical/controversial but important/valuable to know in my opinion and since I wanted to learn everything about America, both the positives and negatives, I just wanted to learn whether they were true or not because I didn't wanna be judgemental like others who rush to conclusions. So maybe they misinterpreted it as bate since the detail of human interactions gets lost in text based social media and my wording might've not been good enough]).

I tried to explain to the sub that this really hurted me and that I had no bad intentions but I only received rejection.

They said very hurtful things such as that they wish I would end my life, that I'm a loser and that I should never come to the country and it broke my soul.

Since then (about 2 years ago) I really started to lose the last fundamental passion and hope I had in life. It's like my fundamental passion got destroyed by this. It feels like the people who I deeply admired hate me and reject me and might be mean/bad people. To me it's the worst feeling I could feel, especially as a person who's already deeply lost and insecure. Maybe it's just because I'm not good enough for America anyways and I'm just fundamentally not on the same level.

I know my thinking is probably not reasonable/very foolish and doesn't make much sense but it is how my depressive/anxious OCD brain works and I can't get rid of it. I get very strong mistrust of people and this was probably the worst experience to trigger that in me.

This was literally everything to me as I deeply resonated with American culture. It gave me joy, a purpose and hope but it all crashed and I don't know what to do. I feel like my life depends on this. I'm fighting with these thoughts for probably 2 years now and asked for advice many times but just can't get over this. It's like this experience got burned into my brain and now I can't forget it anymore. When I watched Americans online it filled me with lots of joy, now every time I see an American online I get sad and depressed. And now it's like every time I see an American I have this mistrust and thought what if they might be evil, which is very unhealthy for me since I'm almost projecting it that way and obviously if you look for something bad in someone you will find something bad in someone and they will sense that and get off putted, further worsening the cycle. Reasonably this has nothing to do with America but I still can't get rid of this construct cause it might be due to my life history and my OCD/overthinking which is the worst when it applies to my idols.

I know that Reddit probably is a negative/hate filled place anyways and isn't a good representation of American people and people on there might be like that anyways because it's Reddit and it might be the same with people from any other country cause people are people and I'm way too sensitive. The problem is just that because of my interest in America and disinterest in everything else I almost exclusively only interacted with Americans in American subs. And even if I would experience something similar with a different country it just wouldn't affect me as much as the one I deeply admired and looked up to.

I wish I could be more mature in this regard but it's affecting me so deeply subconsciously. America is everything for me.

I hope someone here has some understanding for my odd situation and has some advice. I wanted to post this on the Reddit sub r/depression but even before it got published a moderator immediately banned me and argued with me that I'm not depressed and am not allowed to talk about the reason why I'm depressed even though everyone else there is talking about it. It really is a struggle living with this burden and people being so destructive and cruel.

It's probably too late anyways, knowing me I assume I will never recover from this.😞

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[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm an American. This country is a dumpster fire. Finding out the world is worse than your assumptions is part of growing up.

Stop going to Reddit. That place is terrible and full of bots.

Also what is American culture to you?

[–] hurt_soul@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If anything the world is a dumpster fire. It makes no sense to focus it on a single country

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Trump took away my job. Things are tangibly bad here. Once again I'm going to ask you the question, "What is American culture to you?"

Are you watching movies from Hollywood? Are you listening to corporate music? Are you listening to our preachers beg you for money? Are ya reading Mark Twain? Are you playing Blizzard video games? Do you know what the Delta Blues is and why you shouldn't make a deal with the devil at crossroads?

American culture covers a lot and is mostly made to make money.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

American "media," anything you might consume to learn what America "is" is pretty much pure propaganda. We really aren't anything to be admired or envied.

I share a similar feeling to you, being born in America and subjected to the brainwashing that happens in our schools that tells you we're 100% The Best People On Earth™©® and that we were always on the right side of history, only to grow up and find out that's a complete lie and we're often among the absolute worse humanity has to offer really messed with my head.

What America "is" is a collection of small, selfish groups (families) with very little interest in the well-being of people "different" from themselves, or different from their families, and all deeply disconnected from the realities of the wider world. Outside of that, we're a people ruled by the wealthiest in the world who are actively working to ruin anything Americans could possibly have any pride in having created in favor of increasing their individual wealth.

Individual Americans can be good people, but as a whole, this place is a dumpster fire masquerading as a paradise.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

We really should make a burning dumpster part of our national seal rather than the bald eagle.

[–] FRYD@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Reddit isn’t representative of America. I don’t think any one forum or social media is representative of the country really. America is a big country with people of pretty much any opinion on anything.

I’m not sure what American media you’ve consumed nor what picture you have of the country, but it’s likely propaganda. You won’t be able to fly in and expect wherever you land to be what you envisioned. You could with a bit of research find a place that has people who agree with you and will welcome you.

I live in New York (the state, not the city) and much of the place prides itself on being welcoming to foreigners and immigrants of all types. Every job I’ve had was with foreign coworkers and I’ve always enjoyed talking to them and learning about their experiences and perspectives. That said it’s not sunshine and rainbows here right now, especially for foreigners.

The country is in a crisis of inequality and it’s hard to get by in most places and New York is no different. Unless you have good money and good qualifications, you can expect to have to work two jobs here and you’ll still struggle with money whether you’re a foreigner or not. The US government is currently hostile to the plights of those struggling and so no relief seems to be coming soon. This stress has then also been turned against foreigners and immigrants by powerful people.

I don’t know very much about the rest of the country’s treatment of foreigners since I’m an American already and travel is expensive. Still if you’re willing to deal with the struggle, you could likely find a home and friends in New York regardless of what your own beliefs and opinions are. That said, you should wait a few years for this country’s xenophobia to stop being so militarized.

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Another American here - there are definitely good and bad sides, but one of the major bad sides are the kind of people you interacted with. There are plenty of them here, and they don’t want you here and will tell you as much. Idk where you’re from, but if you’re the least bit foreign looking, you will be rejected outright, sometimes even heckled, just for being foreign. I want to stress that not all people, or places, in the US are like this, but if you can’t handle the rejection online, then it will probably be harder if you experience it in person. It sounds like you idealized the US like a long-distance relationship - romanticizing all the good things while not being able to see the bad things, until you got slapped in the face with them.

I don’t know what advice to give you, since you say you can’t connect with another country the same but you also have a distrust of Americans now. I honestly wouldn’t suggest anyone immigrate here right now since our immigrants are being thrown in jail for no reason. Maybe try Canada? They’re supposedly nicer up there, and still close to the US if you want to visit.

[–] hurt_soul@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I've never seen any negative indications of Americans in real life with maybe the exception of racism that's deeply rooted in the culture (and sometimes some ignorance but that's still in the realm of ignorance seen in every place and even seems better than most other countries to me). Compared to the country I'm from (Germany), Americans seem generally more relatable to me than the rest of the world in terms of how I talk, dress, live and think (but in the end I'm probably so weird that I don't fit into any country). The only real bad experience I have is the one from Reddit but the thing is that I can't compare this one to other countries since I never really consciously interacted with foreigners online. So maybe everyone is like this online and I just don't know cause I only seek American culture interactions. (Sometimes I'm literally hoping for a foreigner to insult me online just so that I can convince my brain that everyone is like this online independent from the country. But maybe it is indeed somewhat more American to shout ones opinion out because of the strong sense of free speech which is actually a very good thing).

And there's this obsessive OCD thing in me that tries to make me doubt the most fundamental beliefs I have. It's almost like my brain is thinking "What would be the most terrible thing that could be the case" and then it proceeds to obsess over that thing.

And I literally know that people are fundamentally the same no matter where they're from so it's solely my depressive OCD brain that's pulling a trick on me.

Maybe I'm just way too sensitive and therefore not fit for America anyways. After all it's the home of the brave and the resilient. And I just might be too weak.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

After all it's the home of the brave and the resilient. And I just might be too weak.

Wha..what? Dude we're slobs, drunks, junkies, and trash.

I need you to research "Walmart" and "People of Walmart". Go watch videos of gun conventions and Waffle House fights.

[–] hurt_soul@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Lol you're really on an America hate train

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, for the last 20 odd some years. Why do you like America?

[–] hurt_soul@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Well I don't have much time to explain right now but in a basic sense:

The size of everything, the diversity of things, people (melting pot culture) and nature, the values, the openness, the opportunistic/cutting edge nature, the freedom, the right to bear arms, the look of everything, the fast food chains, the music, the language and so on. It just feels right to me personally where I belong and what fulfills me. It's almost spiritual to me. When I see the European equivalent it feels foreign to me.

And I think many Americans unfortunately don't know how to appreciate these things anymore.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Few things:

  1. I'm from Texas then moved so I understand the appeal of wide open spaces compared to central Europe.

  2. The diversity is great for variety sake from culture to food. Unfortunately the diversity is on the most part shoved into corners or white washed when it comes to adoption of the American masses. You're not going to get that from pop culture media, you need to be boots on the ground walking and driving through our cities.

  3. Our nature is majestic and you can see the majesty of the "Spirit of Columbia". It's disappearing quickly. If you're really obsessed with America go camp in a national park.

  4. We have a surprising lack of freedom, unless you have money. In most places if your employer doesn't like anything about you that's grounds for termination. Employment is tied to health care so it's a death sentence for a lot of people.

  5. "the right to bear arms" Dude all the guns we have is fucked. We got mass shootings constantly. We don't have any public mental health options so deranged people are packing heat. Guns is an institution eroding our pursuit of happiness.

  6. Fast food is bad for you! The people who mostly sustain themselves on it have perpetual health issues. I should know I used to be one of those people. It doesn't even taste good, it's just easy to acquire.

And I think many Americans unfortunately don't know how to appreciate these things anymore.

That's a bit condescending. Have you ever traveled here? If you did, did you ever go to non tourist places?

[–] hurt_soul@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think we both have a fundamentally different view on freedom

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

You're in Germany. What freedom are you missing that we have?

[–] BabyVi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I support gun rights but I'd trade that for a functioning healthcare system and some prospect for retirement any day. Wish I could be the monkeys paw and trade citizenships with you. I think you're kinda naive about the USA but I hope you get to experience it and that you find somewhere to fit in. Best of luck, fuck reddit.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The US is about to enter a second great depression, people are very unhappy in the US and most are heavy into denial about it. I think you have to apply this context to understand the behavior of people from the US right now.

Toxic people in the US are lashing out more and more as their lives and loved ones' lives deteriorate because an honest conversation is too scary for us to have about our future.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

american here also struggling with depression.

this has nothing to do with america. America did not reject you, a few assholes on the internet did. this happens to literally everyone; for whatever reason people are emboldened to say hurtful things on the internet that they never would say in-person.

(granted there are of course real, hateful bigots in america but i think on the whole it is still a welcoming place for immigrants)

you have to learn to not take social media too seriously, and if you can’t do that, just avoid it. you will feel mentally healthier without it.

[–] hurt_soul@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

That's some straight facts man

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Our political situation right now is maddening, divisive, and destructive, but this too shall pass. The pendulum will swing back

All the outrage that makes headlines, all the hatred are generally not part of day to day life. Generally it’s online, social media posting for the outrage and lack of consequences. Social media is a cancer on modern life, better ignored for you health.

That being said, people like to criticize the us. Some of it is deserved but much is not. Sometimes we’re the target just by being the biggest and easiest. Sometimes it’s for the clicks.

Using myself as an example

  • I believe I’m generally kind, helpful, empathetic, honest. I try to be a good role model for my kids.
  • I am very much against the current political regime and its abuses, and say so online. If you don’t want that, don’t look in the relevant communities
  • however, I do believe it is the duty of every citizen to be self-critical of their town, state, country. How can you hope to improve or do your best without an honest look at where you need improvement? Of course it’s important to be constructive, otherwise it’s just complaining.
  • The us has always had strong ideals and a mixed bag of living up to them. People here are dismissing them as propaganda but we should think of them as goals
[–] Haphazard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

If you came to America, or most/ all countries, you'd see that most people whatever the country, are basically good and kind.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Could you be neurodivergent? Just asking because I see some things there I went through and I didn't understand why. Now I know.

[–] hurt_soul@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I might possibly have every neurological abnormality out there, wouldn't be surprised.

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Openly discussing this is not the right place but you can give me some kind of contact possibility if you'd like to carry on with the conversation. I still think lemmy should have some kind of private messaging 🤬