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I borrowed some landscaping tools from my brother in law and he offered his old air compressor since he doesn't use it. Broken tube. Easy normal part to replace.

Got a air compressor accessories kit on the way home. Replaced the hose and tip. Plugged it in outside. Left it for 10 minutes...

Never turned off. Hmm. Might be one of those that have a release valve and not auto shutoff.

20 PSI? That's odd. Unplugged it. Hissing...
Air coming out the bottom. Maybe a puncture?

Found the spot. Got 80 grit sandpaper and 3300 PSI rated epoxy. Sanded and found rust.

Patched it and my spidey sense went off while looking at the epoxy...

Did a search:

A leaking air compressor tank—especially with a leak on the bottom where corrosion is likely—can be extremely dangerous, even if "repaired" with epoxy or other sealants. The primary risk is catastrophic rupture under pressure. If the integrity of the tank is compromised (for example, by internal rust or a patched-up hole), the tank can explode with explosive force, launching shrapnel and causing severe injury or death, as well as property damage

When tanks rupture, the velocity of air and shrapnel can be lethal. For example, a 60-gallon tank at 150 PSI can explode violently, creating 680 mph air blasts and extremely loud noise, both of which are highly hazardous for bystanders

Nope! Tossing it!
Dodged a nearly literal bullet there.

Bonus shots:

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[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Yeah. At the union hall where I got my structural steel welding cert, there was a whole yard of "don't do this shit" that they walked the class around. Almost all of the examples had killed someone too. There was a whole section on definitely do not compress liquids in random dumb ways. I don't remember the details but there was a box like a custom made toolbox for a pickup truck that someone had built square tanks into and was doing something like a service truck transferring fluids to heavy equipment. It wound up blowing apart catastrophically and killed more than one person. They did the investigations at that hall so they had all the bad stuff already and had to keep it for a designated amount of time for legal reasons.

Air is not super duper dangerous like any kind of fluid. Fluid is what will get you, and that compressor will have fluid in the bottom, so it can get you.

That was my main take away from structural steel; compressed fluids = xrays + engineer & with no exceptions.

[–] varyingExpertise@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Air is dangerous as well. A hydraulic system quickly loses energy on failure because oil is nearly incompressible.

Compressed gases or liquids that are beyond their boiling point at atmospheric pressure store a lot more energy at pressure and release it a lot more violently than hydraulics when experiencing a surprise decompression.

Let's take a 100 liter compressor tank that's buffering at 10 bar:

For an isothermal expansion from high pressure to atmospheric pressure, the energy is:

E = P₁V₁ ln(P₁/P₀)

Where:

P₁ = 10 bar = 1.0 MPa

V₁ = 100 liters = 0.1 m³

P₀ = 1 bar = 0.1 MPa (atmospheric pressure)

E = (1.0 × 10⁶ Pa)(0.1 m³) ln(10)

E = 100,000 J × 2.303 E = 230,300 J (or about 230 kJ)

TNT releases approximately 4.6 MJ/kg of energy. 230,300 J ÷ 4,600,000 J/kg = 0.05 kg or 50 grams of TNT

Of course a tank rupturing will expand a lot slower than TNT, but the energy is the same and when half of the tank shell points towards some offices next to the workshop, the first three walls will be impressed pretty much the same way by the suddenly very agitated piece of steel.

Had an air tank fall over in a stupid way during refilling at our local fire station last year. Valve broke off at nearly 270 bar and the thing went off. Now there are new rules, new indents in the concrete walls and at least one fireman that reacts a bit jumpy to "clang" like sounds.

I think they just blanked for a moment and forgot air was a fluid. Pressure is crazy dangerous in all forms. Insert peer pressure joke

[–] prex@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Big agree. Air can scare. Steam is worse because of condensate.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

you sure the high temperature and thermal mass of steam isn't slightly worse than condensation?

[–] prex@aussie.zone 1 points 5 days ago

The condensate is still way over 100 degrees due to pressure. If it reaches the top of the pipe it can create a shock wave (think water hammer) that will travel to the next corner and blowout. The condensate then turns back to steam at atmospheric pressure.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The fluid is not what will kill you. The shrapnel will. The metal vessel is far more dangerous than than any fluid that will be in it

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I possibly had a close call with the Grim Reaper after patching a garbage truck flat many years ago. Caged, but 110PSI still made me fly across the shop after a damaged band let go, and the air alone peeled the skin off one of my palms. More to that story, but suffice to say that was traumatizing. Now I have a phobia of compressed air and shit like this is why.

Before I could afford a new compressor, I left the garage every time I ran my Grandpa's old one I had first time after months sitting. Drained after every single use and again check for water after sitting unused a long time. Still get really nervous even just filling a car tire to 32PSI.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

If I ever get another one I'm using it outside behind a wall...

[–] litchralee@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

100% agree on tossing it. The risk isn't work it. I think the only thing I'd do differently is to stab that hole to make it larger, as a way of indicating to any would-be dumpster diver: "you really do not want this".

I have a similar policy for CAT6 cables, where if I'm tossing it due to diagnosing that it's dead, I'll cut it in half. The next person who wants to revive it is now on-notice that it might have problems.

Same policy for faulty home appliances: the cord gets cut off.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That would have been a dumb way to die…

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Absolutely. I told my BIL about it. Good thing he didn't use it before it leaked and have it pop on him. He's got kids too and I don't.

I could see him using it for filling bicycle tires for the kids while they're standing waiting for it.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Now I've got the song in my head.

[–] wieson@feddit.org 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Happy, that you dodged that bullet, op!

May I use this opportunity to rage about the unit "PSI"? Feel free to ignore.

PSI is a stupid measurement. Sensibly one would use Pascal, hectopascal or Bar (which is 100 kPa).

But even within the us standard or imperial system it makes no sense. Pounds per square inch. Who uses s for square? It's already taken by second. Square is the unit to the power 2. Pounds isn't "p" either, it's lbs aka "libras". And inch is not "i", it's "

So it should be lbs/"² .

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree with everything you're ranting about, however:

lbs/"²

Looks like a totally random keyboard mashing and I hate it.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago
[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: pounds per square inch is eash to visualize because it relates it through units I already know

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Countercounterpoint:

I know what a foot is; I know what a pound is.

Make sense of foot-pounds for torque.

[–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Allow me to make a hackneyed code block diagram

 • <- rotational center
 |
 |
 +👈<<<  <- pounds (force applied at radius)
 ⇡
 feet (distance from center)

Because the final unit is a combined feet×lbs, it's subject to the commutative property of multiplication. For example, 89 foot-pounds of torque is equivalent to 89 pounds of force at 1 foot away from the rotational center, or 1 pound of force 89ft away from the rotational center.

I typically imagine it by putting a weight of x pounds at the end of a 1ft wrench held perfectly level, idk.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

I understand how it works, but I don't get it like with other measurements.

Like how I can look at something and say "that's about 4 feet" or pick something up and say "that's about 2 pounds".

I can't twist the lid on a jar and say "damn! That took 10 foot pounds of torque!" I don't even know if that's a lot or normal; I can't estimate any kind of frame of reference.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Thats super easy X pounds of force on a lever one foot away from whatevera turning

Imagine trying to hold the end of a foot long stick with however much weight hanging off the tip

[–] wetling@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Isn't lbs wrong (or at least less right)?

grammatical number - Correct usage of lbs. as in "pounds" of weight - English Language & Usage Stack Exchange https://share.google/pk9BpP2jHlRBGl7cD

[–] wieson@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I guess so. We wouldn't write 5 ms for metres. Plus the pounds weight - pounds force dilemma

ergo

PSI < lbs/"² < lb/"² < lb~f~/"² <<<<<<<<< Bar < Pa

[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm trying to learn conversions from the freedom units i grew up with. I'm pretty solid on miles/km and F/C, so I've got that going for me, which is nice.

Do I understand correctly that 15psi is about 1 bar, or 100kpa? If i use that back of the napkin math will I be close, at least in the 1-100psi range?

[–] wieson@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I dont know the conversions, cause my life is fully metric by luck of being born in it.

I know that atmospheric pressure is 1 bar (the normal air around us), my car tyres need 2.5 Bar and my bike tyres 4 Bar.

But you seem to be correct, it's 14.5 lbs/"²

[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

by luck of being born in it.

You and 95% of the globe, you lucky devil

Okay, and thank you on explaining what 1 bar is, that makes perfect and intuitive sense. If humanity ever leaves for the stars bar will go the way of inches, but until then, it's intuitive. Pascals are a little harder, but it's 7ish (6.8 and a bit) per 1psi. I can math that close enough

Also I will push back against lbs/"² in the same way I push back against "proper English". Language is about being understood, and psi is understood by most US citizens. That's ~350 million people.

The bigger issue is not adopting the global standard of metric. Stuff like this is why ISO exists.

And it's pronounced GIF

[–] quantumgary@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

This is why you drain your compressor tank daily.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I would use it to test how much destruction it could unleash. Maybe bury it in a pile of sand or in ground. Set a long line to. Start it. Overpressure it. Wait.

But completely agree. It is unsafe. Do not use it.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If OP records it for viewing online, then it's not dangerous, it's science.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago

Mythbusters would be proud.

[–] litchralee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I agree that using this tank would be unsafe.....

But now that you've mentioned that specific test regime, the seeds of a bad idea have been sowed lol. So to that end, I have to advise anyone who even thinks to try that: make sure you have a way to de-pressurize the suspect vessel, not because the tank would fail, but because it might pass.

Because if it actually achieves 100% of working pressure and you keep climbing but it still hasn't failed... what do you do then? Just leave it there in the ground with over pressure? It would essentially be a hidden landmine, waiting for water corrosion to take its toll and set it off. And no one is going to get anywhere near a potentially-damaged pressurized vessel at over 100% working pressure, not without body armor.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

This is definitely Mythbusters territory now.

The first thing coming to mind would be setting up an automatic pressure release valve. I've seen those used to do pressure tests on pipes. It would facilitate making small increments to the maximum pressure admitted.

For all we know, the tank may very well rupture when put to less than maximum normal service pressure

[–] CetaceanNeeded@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

If you are going to repair something like this, always do a hydrostatic test to twice working pressure. It's the only safe way to check for failure. But throwing it away was almost certainly the right choice here.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

You're really overestimating the force of a home compressor. I've seen 2500PSI tanks rupture. Those will kill you

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

These small tanks most dangerous failure is zipper style. Water sits in the bottom and rusts in a ring, creating a blowout panel.

[–] TheTurner@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Yes! You gotta be careful with these. Glad you made the right decision. My air tank has an expiration date on it for this reason. I don't use it much, but I plan on pitching it so that I don't die.

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

When it comes to industrial-grade pressure vessels (which are genuinely terrifying BTW), the first step is to inspect the damage. In a backyard setting, most people don’t have access to ultrasonic testing, radiographic imaging, or any of the other fancy tools professionals use—so yeah, that might be the end of the project right there.

The danger doesn’t magically disappear, but at least the tank probably won’t obliterate your entire house if it fails. Probably. No guarantees though, but you can safely expect to see a hole in a wall and any people standing in the line of fire.

Once you’ve figured out how bad the damage is, you’re left with two options: repair or scrap. If you don’t know whether there are other weak spots lurking in the tank, you’re basically playing Russian roulette—with shrapnel. Not my favorite variety, but you do you.

If you’ve somehow made it this far and still think repair is the way to go, here’s what that might look like:

You could weld a reinforcing plate over the damaged area. Ideally, you’d also do a proper stress test afterward to make sure it’s not just a ticking time bomb with a fresh coat of misguided confidence.

And if (or when) the tank fails and someone gets decapitated, it’s good to have documentation ready—so it’s clear who gets to explain things to the judge. That means keeping track of who did the repair, how it was done, what materials were used, and where they came from etc. Bonus points if the paperwork is legible.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Funny it's a $70 tank. Scrap it is!!

I sanded it down and sealed with epoxy

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

BTW Epoxy is a temporary fix at best. I would use it only in an emergency. For example, let’s say you’re on a ship sailing across a vast ocean, and your compressor begins leaking. I would fix it with epoxy, and get it replaced at the next port.

In a normal backyard shed situation though, you can just skip straight to the point where you scrap the old one, and buy something better.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah well I went to YouTube and this guy didn't have a disclaimer about making bombs...

Thier (my sister and brother in law) he has constant flooding issues so it definitely got wet over years.

I also had false confidence from the 3300 PSI rating epoxy:

This doesn't account for structural damage from rusting inside out.

[–] prex@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Professional UT equipment is expensive but Im wondering how well a cheap one would work (not recommending this one, just the first link I came across)

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

That would definitely be a step in the right direction. Clearly better than just eye-balling it.