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The Democratic People's Republic of Tankiejerk

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Dunking on Tankies from a leftist, anti-capitalist perspective.

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We allow posts about tankie behavior even off fedi, shitposts, and rational, leftist discussion.

Curious about non-tankie leftism? If you've got a little patience for 19th century academic style, let a little Marx and Kropotkin be your primer!

Marx's Communist Manifesto, short and accessible! Highly recommended if you haven't read it

Kropotkin's Conquest Of Bread

Selected works of Marx

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I was gonna wait until I had some potential mods to start promoting, but fuck it.

If you're on Lemmy, I probably don't have to convince you to be a leftist. If you're on TankieJerk, I probably don't have to convince you that a large portion of the most vocal leftists are... very dumb.

But they are vocal. Which means when left leaning individuals are coming out into the world and looking to refine their political ideology and inform their praxis, the most consistent and passionate voices are advocating spontaneous, stochastic, totally counterproductive individual action.

I think the Left deserves better. I think the Left deserves a place to have reasonable discussions about practical, scalable actions in achievable time-frames. I think it's possible to keep more than one thing in mind at a time. I think political discussion has room for nuance and respectful disagreement.

Marxism is based on material-dialectics.

"Material" means based on factual conditions and effective actions, not ideological posturing.

"Dialectic" means understanding those who disagree with you, so you can both reach a new, more informed conclusion.

Let's be honest, we're all Trekkies, or Trekkers as my mom says. We all want fully automated luxury gay space communism. But we're tired of being brigaded for suggesting it might take time and effort to promote some degree of class-consciousness in the proletariat. We're tired of being called liberal scum for calling out performative idealism. Some of us know what a SMART goal is, and its value.

Do you think the Left should be more strategic? Do you understand Duverger's Law? Do you want to figure out an actual plan, that might actually work?

Come on over to !PLT@sh.itjust.works and help puzzle out Practical Leftist Theory, because there's a promised land between liberal and tankie.

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[โ€“] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Forward the groundwork for the revolution, comrade ๐Ÿ™

[โ€“] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Sounds cool! Iโ€™ve always had a hard time finding political spaces where I fit online as someone with very far left views but also a keen sense for practical and realistic strategy. Seems like I can pick one or the other but not both.

[โ€“] naeap@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

My practical (edit: somehow auto correct made "PayPal" out of it) roadmap to more freedom of the individual usually goes like:
Direct democracy
Remove all political parties, state has the job to do what the basic democratic system - so the people - work out, with directly voted in representatives for specific roles
Rules of system can be directly changed through itself

This could finally lead to some anarchism on a national level.

But we're losing on the educational front since decades and without intelligent people, the choices will just be like the results of the current elections...

[โ€“] Eldritch@piefed.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'd say the "state" as it currently exists is as big a problem as any parties are. It's part of what facilitates the parties. But on the whole I definitely agree with you.