this post was submitted on 23 Jul 2025
307 points (98.1% liked)

World News

48840 readers
1671 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
all 15 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Israelis are going to regret this for decades to come. The world will not forget.

[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 11 points 1 week ago

They really don't care. They are indoctrinated into thinking they are the victims and the world hates them for being chosen by God.

As long as they exterminate all the Palestinians it's mission accomplished. They have enough puppets in the West to make sure the blowback isn't too severe.

[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you're from a country materially contributing to this madness, ruin your government's day until they stop. Especially if you're from an EU country, push for a repeal of the EU-Israel treaty and sanctions. If you're not, then unfortunately nothing.

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm proud to be from a country that wrote a sternly written statement

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hell yeah, buddy! Jolie is THE Queen for signing that sternly worded letter with twenty five other people! So massively proud of her, I could just Kiss her all over. I don't even care that her and Gibeault (my Rep) were completely silent on the issue for the past two years.

Edit: shit, forgot it's Anand now.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At this point? Not much. For americans the last major chance was elections, but too many of us either voted for this or abstained (which allows the R party the most efficient path to arm Israel).

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's what they want you to think. The people's power doesn't end where the ruling class decides. Elections didn't end the Vietnam war; mass popular resistance did. Most things you believe the government "gave" to you were actually taken by force.

[–] markko@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know that the suppression by the government during those protests was anything like what is going on today though. The government has been detaining regular protestors alongside movement leaders/organisers to scare people into thinking that nobody is safe. The Trump administration has even been targeting people for deportation based on the fucking Canary Mission.

Another big difference is the fact that many of the protestors back then were at risk of being directly affected via the draft, whereas the impact of the Palestinian genocide on the majority of Americans is minimal to nonexistent.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know that the suppression by the government during those protests was anything like what is going on today though.

The 60s and 70s were the height of COINTERPRO and CIA shenanigans so if anything protesters today have it good, but that aside:

Another big difference is the fact that many of the protestors back then were at risk of being directly affected via the draft, whereas the impact of the Palestinian genocide on the majority of Americans is minimal to nonexistent.

True, but we're really not looking at just the genocide here. There's a whole full-speed march to fascism that already is and will continue affecting the majority of Americans, so really what we should be seeing is mass anti-fascist resistance that would naturally have strong anti-Zionist presence. The fact that there's no mass anti-fascist resistance is the big problem here, but that's not due to lack of impact on the average American. Also given that the IDF trains American cops using lessons learned from their subjugation of Palestinians, I'd say there's a fair bit of impact on minority communities.

[–] markko@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

What I meant was the difference in who was targeted. My understanding, which could be wrong, is that specific groups (and more specifically, their leaders) were primarily targeted by the operations carried out back then, whereas today they are also detaining/deporting etc people who genuinely have no offenses or ties to such groups. Even Trump supporters and their family members are being persecuted. I think it's these seemingly indiscriminate actions that make the average person less willing to take a stand, especially if they don't feel as though they've been affected badly enough yet to risk sticking their neck out.

In any case it's a terrifying and truly fucked situation.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

mass popular resistance did.

Neat, where is it? I am not trying to be an asshole here, but many of my fellow lefties here keep acting as if the elections didn't have a consequence. There aren't mass protests, certainly not at the scale we need them. Insofar as what the relief Palestine needs; nothing is in place and it will take months we no longer have.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

I'm not saying that the election had no consequences; I'm only saying that things can (and usually do) change without elections, so elections weren't really the last chance for anything. Whether they will this time aside, they at least in theory can; the problem is lack of popular will, not lack of opportunity. Again not dismissing the impact of the election, just keeping things in perspective.