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I wish this would have actual effects (infosec.pub)

submitted 3 weeks ago by CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de to c/memes@lemmy.world

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[–] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh they see. They just plan on being dead, rich, and/or secluded in the only remaining habitable places.

The whole pretending not to believe in it thing is so we don't just kill them beforehand.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago

I think a lot of people do disbelieve, to some extent.

Its motivated by interest kind of a 'looking away' thing, because they can't deal with the changes they woukd have to make.

No it's not rational, it's not sane, and it's so wildly maladaptive it's already causing extinctions.

But i dont think either of us look directly at it with much depth either. I think anyone who kept the whole breadth and depth and horror of the situation on their mind would very quickly find that mind all over their ceiling or making detailed plans to kill execs/politicians.

Apocalyptic hyperobjects do be like that.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Fox News: So-called "scientists" convince a so-called "court" to believe global warming myth.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 6 points 3 weeks ago

A world court with no ability to enforce anything is... exactly what they are.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

The US military says that climate change is a national security threat.

This is carefully ignored by officials who are deep in the pockets of the shitheads fueling climate change.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago

They'll just point to the studies that suggest the economy will do fine in even the worst case scenarios. Unfortunately the governments are not concerned about the consequences to the general public if they can find a way to keep themselves afloat. The proof is right there, they aren't doing everything possible to change. Change only comes if there's profit.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

The UN is a social media platforn for world leaders built for virture signalling.

[–] Trihilis@ani.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah my first thought was, "oh cool, let's see every government in the world totally not give a shit".

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

"World" (sans America)

[+] XM34@feddit.org -7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Why is everyone complaining exclusively about governments and the upper class? It's not like the lower and middle class is giving any more shits!

I've heard it counless times: "You only live once." "Why should I care about the environment? I won't have any effect either way!" "Saving the environment is important, but with the current economy flying is the only viable option for my beach vacation this year" "I'm way to overworked to take the time to recycle my garbage" "I would ride my bike to work, but I'm out of form and it's just way faster to take the car.".

With some very few notable exceptions everyone is the same. Everyone cares about the environment right until the moment when saving it would require even the slightest bit of an effort.

[–] basiclemmon98@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I believe it is because there is a chronic issue where the lower classes believe we are entirely unable to force the higher classes to do anything and the higher classes are the ones doing the most damage, so we excuse ourselves. But we could make real change if people stopped being woosies and just brought out the guillatines...

[–] XM34@feddit.org 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That could solve the societal and class issues. But I doubt it will have any positive effect on the environment. As I already said, people of all classes in general don't care about the environment as long as they would have to endure even slight discomfort while saving it.

[–] basiclemmon98@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well given that most of the wealthy are very old and control all of the means of production, and because they don't care about the environment, as they'll be too old to experience all of the drawbacks, I believe a class revolution would put a lot more younger people in positions to make real change, and in my experience, younger people tend to actually care about the environment more than most older individuals.

[–] XM34@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You know, I would love to believe that. I really want. But if we look at election results, population surveys and other sources, then this is simply not true.

In the young population groups there are about 5% to 10% more people who care about the environment enough to actually cause a change. But that still only comes down to 30% in total in the age groups 25 to 45. The age group below 25 is almost as bad as the current old generation. They shifted back from being greens to being nazis.

So yeah. Even in the most environmentally aware generation 70% of people don't give a shit! And the dislikes on my original comment are proving me right.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Shit man, people don't even see our ecosystems collapsing. Since I was in diapers, 74% of all the animals on Earth have disappeared. My neighbors were taken aback when I pointed out vast changes we've all seen just over the last decade. They never noticed!

NW Florida here. We got the all-time state record in my town last winter. *11" of snow in Florida." And for any smartasses that say, "Is this global warming?" Yes. Only hot air moves cold air.

[–] XM34@feddit.org 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Just FYI, at first I was like "That 74% ist a bit overexaggerated, right?". But no, you're right! Mind you, 74% of wild animals and not animal species. WTF!?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I see it in the woods and waters here in NW Florida. This place should be teeming with life. Can't even go fishing as there's hardly any fish in the swamps and rivers. Love to bring home dinner now and again, but my morals stop me cold. Fucking sucks.